Conservatives are a dying breed.

[DJD]

Uh dj, first president to say universal health care would work for us? How about Ford!Almost all of them have said something about our health care system. Do you actually think private interests would lower health costs? Maybe they would, through exclusion! So if your luck runs out for some reason, you'll be dropped and forgotten.Health insurers wanted tort reform, they got it, did your rates go down?Who has the largest group of lobbyists in washington, the insurance lobby, check it out. The next target will be these nuisance class action suits, you know where a bad drug or maybe a bad hip or joint is involved, They are all for doctors and drug companys burying their mistakes, sometimes its some one we care about.My brother was diagnosed with early stage alziemers, after 3 years of treatment, guess what? he NEVER had it, any recourse? sure get a second or third opinion, but whos responsible for the costly drug thereapy that insued. If it works marginally well in most civilized countrys, why not here??

I didn't know any tort reform was in this last Healthcare Law? Is that what your saying??

My understanding was that insurance rates around the country for the same aged person with the same health varies alot due to states limiting the number of carriers in the state? I ask why? If that's true, why? Why limit competition unless something crooked is going on....I'm going on memory so I know I prolly missed something there so maybe someone can chime in on that.

[Tom523]

I didn't know any tort reform was in this last Healthcare Law? Is that what your saying??

My understanding was that insurance rates around the country for the same aged person with the same health varies alot due to states limiting the number of carriers in the state? I ask why? If that's true, why? Why limit competition unless something crooked is going on....I'm going on memory so I know I prolly missed something there so maybe someone can chime in on that.

Tort reform never occurred. It would be a good start.Allowing individuals to buy healthcare insurance across state lines would create competition and prices would drop some. Medicare reform would be a good idea and the scooter store wouldn't be able to guarantee that medicare will buy your scooter. High penalties for doctors that order unneeded tests on terminally ill patients would save lots of money. Making a deal with Canadian pharmaceutical companies would bring domestic costs of medicine down. Limiting the services of medicaid to medically essential and emergency services instead of paying for elective surgeries and treatments (breast enlargement is not really a treatment for depression). There are many ways to cut medical costs and reduce the deficit. But you can be rest assured 47% of the people in this country that pay no income tax won't support it. Lets change the politician pay plan to a pay for performance plan... Then our entire congress would be on food stamps!

[Catfish Bob]

Geo,

Im 26 years old and have been in the landscaping business my entire life, just like my grandfather and father.
I could collect unemployment from December to March every year but I never have. Instead every year I go to a temp agency and get a temporary job.
I could also get food stamps if wanted but I choose not to.
The way I see it is if they didn't tax me so **** much I'd be living great, wouldn't even need to work from December to March. I could just stay home everyday and watch for people stopping in to buy firewood.
I still get some work from December to March but not much at all. Mostly gutter cleaning and leaf removal jobs. Since I don't take their handouts I do not claim that work on me taxes.

That said, the woman and me still do not have any children. If we did it might be a completely different story.

[Catfish Bob]

Also just want to rant for a second.

My best friend since 3rd grade basketball team, his mother is on disability. Does nothing and collects money. If she was disabled I wouldn't see a problem but this woman is far from F"ing disabled. She goes to the gym every morning to work out, has a huge garden that she tends to on her own, goes to every UK football game etc,,,, it makes me so sick knowing that the guberment is stealing my money to give to people like her. Kind of crap that makes me say their is no freedom is this country just an illusion of it. Your free to do some things but keeping your money is not one of them.

[waterdog101]

[QUOTE=Catfish Bob;461307]Geo,

Im 26 years old and have been in the landscaping business my entire life, just like my grandfather and father.
I could collect unemployment from December to March every year but I never have. Since I don't take their handouts I do not claim that work on me taxes. Unemployment, is not a government handout, you cannot recieve unemployment unless you have worked and payed it into the system. so if you are out of work, sign up and recieve your unemployment benefits, it's not the governments money, it's yours. you payed it in.