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    Re: Debt Ceiling for Dummies

    I liked Ron Paul but he didn't make the final cut. Wound up a libertarian, in other words my vote would have been wasted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kygorski View Post
    I liked Ron Paul but he didn't make the final cut. Wound up a libertarian, in other words my vote would have been wasted.
    ..I'm getting close to retiring, but will have to work another year. thanks to Ronold Reagan for raising the retirement age to 66. and I just couldn't bring myself to vote for ran paul, because thats his plan for fixing the economy. by raising the retirement age again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdog101 View Post
    ..I'm getting close to retiring, but will have to work another year. thanks to Ronold Reagan for raising the retirement age to 66. and I just couldn't bring myself to vote for ran paul, because thats his plan for fixing the economy. by raising the retirement age again.
    Reagan was BETTER than the opposition.......

    I hope those who threw away their vote this past time, or didn't vote, or voted because it was "time" have LEARNED their lesson.

    I am counting on some real HOPE and CHANGE.

    Later,

    Geo

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    I have to grudgingly agree with you there. Mondale was to liberal for me, but he did acknowlege that woman do vote, and are capable of the highest office[some of them]Dukakis was just a lark.The one thing all of realaize, is the media is going to always scrutinize any candidate. Why anyone would want to run for an office, only to be watched for even the slightest character flaw.We desperatly need, and have neded for some time, a real third party, that would help, but what we need is for a sense of integrity,honor and ethics. That is disapearing at an alarming rate in this country.This is america, we are one coutry not 50. we should have one language, and freedom FROM religious. We should value our future generations, not hinder them.And special intrest lobbying should be severly limited.While every american has the right to petition congress, its the sound BIG money is the only voice listened to today

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    not trying to turn this into a religous disscusion but if ya ask me the biggest problem with our country is not the debt limit or republicans or democrats its that too many peoply have gotten away from jesus christ!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vetbass View Post
    not trying to turn this into a religous disscusion but if ya ask me the biggest problem with our country is not the debt limit or republicans or democrats its that too many peoply have gotten away from jesus christ!
    I agree with you there...........but I will go even further for my heathen friends out there.......because I think heathens can UNDERSTAND why........

    While I've always believed that strong Christian values are important. Any moral, ethical VALUES would be acceptable and a STEP UP from the "value" systems we're teaching folks today.

    Anyone who thinks that the stuff we see on tv, the movies, the clothing, the death and destruction in video games, etc, etc, etc, doesn't have an impact on young folks......well I think you're wrong.

    Things that used to be common place in society like Morality ,Ethics Honesty......have been missing for a long long time.

    Look at who our kids emulate. Whiny football and basketball players who get millions of dollars to play a game. Or rap artists who have filthy, filthy lyrics.....Look at the TV shows.......Glee, 90210, Charmed, Twilight, Bachelor, Bachelorette, Jersey Shore......everything ON MTV or VH1.....

    If that crap is what our kids think is "normal" we are going to need a LOT of help.

    There are so many things WRONG with our current society, that maybe we are destined for failure...

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    Re: Debt Ceiling for Dummies

    Wow, check this out.

    WSB TV National Disgrace
    Our tax money going overseas to Mosques

    http://youtu.be/DPNM7OgltqM

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    I think the debt ceiling thing is pretty easy to understand. Our politicians want more room to print and or borrow more money to spend. They have spent 14 trillion(not enough space to type the zeroes)of money we dont have in the name of the nanny state. If the debt ceiling is raised, the debt will go past 15 trillion pretty quick. The reason that cut, cap and balance was offered up was to get control of that spending. I guess thats why it wasn't even allowed to be discussed in the senate. It will cut their power to spend your money(or print more, or borrow from the Chinese to fund our Gov. spending). Cant have that. The reason we are at this point is not because we don't pay enough taxes, it's because your government knows that power comes from money and those that control the money have the power and spending vast amounts on people is control. People will fight for "their guy" to have the ability to spend us into oblivion. I think there are many in this country, including our current administration, that believe in the philosophy of "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need". The people that control our debt rating have said that unless 4 trillion is cut we will be down graded. Our politicians have decided to ignore them and offer 1.6 trillion(give or take a couple of Billion dollars) over 10 years, but large scale spending will take place immediately. How many Billions do we pay per month just on the interest? There goes the power of the all mighty dollar and on BO's watch. It would be funny if it werent so serious. If we default, the important bills will still be paid because we still take in Billions of dollars a month in tax revenew. If you don't get yours, it's because your president chose not to pay you.

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