Quote Originally Posted by pontooner View Post
Whens the last time you heard a peep about cap and trade? It's been a good 2 years since I've heard anything about it. Cap and trade is dead.

Obama opened up the Gulf to drilling and then the Gulf oil spill happened, I could be wrong but I think they opened up parts of it again.

Obama has done just as much or more on immigration as any recent POTUS.

Are gun laws really a lot stricter now than when Obama came into office? I really have no idea myself so that's why I'm asking but there was a lot of chicken littles posting about Obama taking their guns.

How is spending money in one country and not another a left thing?



Still don't see how you get "Right now with this administration we are heading this country so far left" after Obama extended the Bush tax cuts, has kept GITMO open, deported record number of illegals, extended the Patriot Act, kept both wars going and even started his own little war in Lybia just to mention a few of the not so left things he's done.
Cap and trade may be dead s. But the only reason it is, is because republicans fought it tooth and nail to kill it.Obama was willing to let the Bush tax cuts expire but the republicans again stood their ground and would not sign the budget until they were included in it. Everything Obama has done on immigration is eye wash. He hopes to have an amnesty plan to allow 13 million illegal immigrants to vote in the next election. If he succeeds then he's a shoe in. If he really wanted to cut the budget he would enforce immigration laws and tighten security at border. Then stop the flow of cash across the border into Mexico. This would cause many illegals to leave. The drain on our school systems and healthcare facilities would diminish. He should stop social security payments to illegals that haven't paid a dime into it. Stop college scholarships for illegal immigrants and stop federal aid to sanctuary cities.Operation fast and furious was preparation to gain political support for stricter gun laws. Watch for him to tighten gun laws soon. Spending money that we don't have is stupid. The country is all ready fighting two wars and has a huge deficit. Why go into Libya? To get us deeper in debt? He can't justify it because the same thing is happening in Syria and he didn't go in there. Don't tell me that the budget crisis is not his fault. He spent 3 trillion dollars since he has been in office and we still have a 9% unemployment rate. He jokes about his shovel ready projects while people are out of work.