I have figured out SEC football expansion

[elnutsmalljaws]

As I posted under The U post, everybody cheats. How bad is it? Right now the University of Alabama is currently on some sort of sanction for NCAA rules violations in the following sports: football, softball, baseball, women's gymnastics, men's and women's basketball, women's soccer, women's volleyball, men's and women's golf, men's and women's swimming, men's and women's tennis, and men's and women's indoor and outdoor track. 18 total sports at ONE university currently under some sort of sanction from the NCAA. How many universities in America times how many sports violating rules, MILLIONS. Just short of the BILLIONS of dollars that are changing hands under the table

[Fishin is life]

Doesn't the conference champion wind up the BCS champion every year anyway?

[DJD]

Doesn't the conference champion wind up the BCS champion every year anyway?

Hahahaha seems that way!

[Tim_T]

Almost every year, and a whole bunch in a row. Nothing like a bunch of suits and computer geeks sitting around in a room and deciding who is the Mythical National Champion.

I swear I am so fed up with the hypocrisy of big time college sports that I am almost done with it.

[kyfanatic]

West Virginia = 6 NCAA Major Infractions 2011,2007,1995,1983,1982,1957
Cincinnati = 5 NCAA Major Infractions 1998,1988,1978,1959,1956
Louisville = 3 NCAA Major Infractions 1998,1996,1957
Notre Dame = 3 NCAA Major Infractions 1999,1971,1954
St Johns = 2 NCAA Major Infractions 2006,1972
Villanova = 2 NCAA Major Infractions 2004,1970
Seton Hall = 2 NCAA Major Infractions 1975,1955
South Florida = 2 NCAA Major Infractions 1986,1982
DePaul = 2 NCAA Major Infractions 1994,1974
Pittsburgh = 1 NCAA Major Infraction 1993
Connecticut = 1 NCAA Major Infraction 2011
Syracuse = 1 NCAA Major Infraction 1992
Georgetown = 1 NCAA Major Infraction 2009
Rutgers = 1 NCAA Major Infraction 2003

Those who live in "Glass Houses" should not throw stones

[elnutsmalljaws]

274 different schools have been found out to have committed Major rules violations since 1953. Arizona State and SMU head the list with being caught 8 times each with Majors. 82 schools have been busted 3 times or more. 274 caught and almost 1/3 of them busted 3 times or more tells me they are ALL doing it and a lot. Who gets caught the first time? Face it, College Sports are just like Politicians - THEY ARE ALL CROOKED

[DJD]

274 different schools have been found out to have committed Major rules violations since 1953. Arizona State and SMU head the list with being caught 8 times each with Majors. 82 schools have been busted 3 times or more. 274 caught and almost 1/3 of them busted 3 times or more tells me they are ALL doing it and a lot. Who gets caught the first time? Face it, College Sports are just like Politicians - THEY ARE ALL CROOKED

Amen to that. The common threads with the two are money, power, greed and prestige.

To sit back and pick at one sport or conference is silly.....it's fun but it's silly. When a team or conference is at the top they are targeted as cheaters or bending the rules(maybe they do?). When a team or conference is not at the top they do the accusing and wish they could find a way to get to the top.

I remember a crew chief in NASCAR say there are two types of teams in this sport. The ones that cheat and the ones that get caught at it. That goes for all sports in my mind and at all levels from little kids on up to the pro's.

[Tim_T]

West Virginia = 6 NCAA Major Infractions 2011,2007,1995,1983,1982,1957
Cincinnati = 5 NCAA Major Infractions 1998,1988,1978,1959,1956
Louisville = 3 NCAA Major Infractions 1998,1996,1957
Notre Dame = 3 NCAA Major Infractions 1999,1971,1954
St Johns = 2 NCAA Major Infractions 2006,1972
Villanova = 2 NCAA Major Infractions 2004,1970
Seton Hall = 2 NCAA Major Infractions 1975,1955
South Florida = 2 NCAA Major Infractions 1986,1982
DePaul = 2 NCAA Major Infractions 1994,1974
Pittsburgh = 1 NCAA Major Infraction 1993
Connecticut = 1 NCAA Major Infraction 2011
Syracuse = 1 NCAA Major Infraction 1992
Georgetown = 1 NCAA Major Infraction 2009
Rutgers = 1 NCAA Major Infraction 2003

Those who live in "Glass Houses" should not throw stones

Is that for all sports? The SEC has that beat with football alone and likely more to come with Auburn.

[kyfanatic]

Is that for all sports? The SEC has that beat with football alone and likely more to come with Auburn.

So it's okay to cheat as long as someone else cheats more? That makes sense,Thank God the Big 12 cheats more than anybody else.

[Tim_T]

So it's okay to cheat as long as someone else cheats more? That makes sense,Thank God the Big 12 cheats more than anybody else.

That is not what I said at all. I think most schools cheat, some are just mor over the top blatant with it. And I doubt the Big 12 cheats more than SEC schools in football. The only people who deny that SEC football is known for cheating are....wait for it....SEC fans!

[elnutsmalljaws]

That is not what I said at all. I think most schools cheat, some are just mor over the top blatant with it. And I doubt the Big 12 cheats more than SEC schools in football. The only people who deny that SEC football is known for cheating are....wait for it....SEC fans!

SEC football, home of the last 5 BCS Champions and 6 out of the last 8. SEC teams have 2 choices, cheat like the rest and have a shot at a BCS championship or let all others win the bidding war, not be competitive, fire the coaching staff over and over on a never ending cycle. Kids don't come play Football at Florida, Bama, Auburn, LSU or other power schools for their Academics. They come for the same reason others go to USC, Ohio State, Oregon, Michigan and such, HIGHEST BIDDER WINS!!

[elnutsmalljaws]

College Basketball is just as corrupt as College Football. If ANYONE thinks Calipari and Pitino have not are not and will not in the future breaking NCAA rules they are crazy as heck. When I say Calipari and Pitino, I am including the Boosters of each program because they are ultimately responsible for both programs. The AD and University Presidents are fired AFTER the coach gets canned so the coach is responsible. When they see Boosters hanging around in places they should not, when they see the players driving cars or spending money that they don't have the means to get and such is the responsibilty of the Coach. If I recruited a player for as long as kids are recruited with all the services and such available coaches know the kids bathroom schedule before they sign. Even squeaky clean Coach K at Duke and The General Bobby Knight knowingly broke rules in the past will do so again in the present and given the opportunity will do so in the future. I know before the Hoosier bandwagon will say Bobby never had this or that and his kids graduated and...... You are delusional if you think Bobby Knight is a quire boy. No way he conducted himself in public with everybody watching did he not take the occasional shortcut to get an advantage in private to keep his team on top and more importantly keep Bobby Knight in front of the TV cameras. I really think the movie "Blue Chips" is a good representation of how boosters work. Tradition is out the window and Money runs College Sports. You have certain rivalries that will never die in College Sports but Money is killing the College Sports as a whole. Examples must be set and what better time to set them with Coaches like Tressel and the Former UT Basketball Coach ( name slips my mind right now), players like Pryor and Team like Miami. When coaches like Eddie Sutton can put a school on probation like he did at UK, then bolt for Oklahoma State and be coaching in the Big Dance while UK was still on probation us a joke. Suspend players for seasons, take away their scholarships while suspended so they can't use the college unless he pays his way and no contact with his coaching staff. Suspend coaches for year(s) and if he goes somewhere else then that school is on probation as well and hand out Death Penalties to Universities that break the rules. Firm, fair and consistent, HOW HARD IS THIS. Sort of like raising a small child and the parent threatens with discipline but never follows thru with it or when they do the punishment is no where near as severe as the crime. Where do I apply as President of the NCAA Rules Infraction Committee?