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    Unhappy Re: George W. Bush - The 9/11 Interview

    Quote Originally Posted by kydonky View Post
    I remember 9/11 very well. Durring the time right after 9/11 it was 4 days before any official comment was made by the president. A lot of people were questioning where is the president?

    Cheney has revield he was in a bunker after the attacks for several days. Bush was under protection as well.

    When we had a near neuclear meltdown at Three Mile Island, Jimmy Carter went inside the reactor durring the crisis to get a first hand view and assessment of the condition of the reactor.

    George Bush does not get any kudos from me for his actions from 9/11 to 9/15. He took strong action afterwards but I still think he should have at least made a speech to the country.

    Sorry to bring this up but this is what happened on 9/11 and at Three Mile Island.

    I worked second shift and was up early enough to see the 2nd plane hit. I pretty certain that Bush made several statements that day and that was while he was getting flown to different locations. He was in hiding for 4 days???????? I understand some people don't like Bush but I don't understand how this crap just keeps getting made up. I would hate to see what would happen if something like that happened under the current Presidents watch.

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    Re: George W. Bush - The 9/11 Interview

    Quote Originally Posted by greenriverman1 View Post
    If it was unsafe Carter would not have gone inside the reactor. When I hear Carter I think IRAN. But I doubt you would remember IRAN.

    9/11 Caught everyone off guard and things happened that we would not have thought off. I am sure that Bush was a very busy man unlike the current dumb a-- in charge. And I have to question in charge because it looks like the unions might be or are trying to be anyway.

    I would like to know if you think that the main trouble in D.C. is just with one party or if you think that it is both?
    Definately both. I bring up some of these issues because there appears to be a lot of Dem bashing on this board. Obama this and Obama that.

    The health care reform bill ia full of problems placed in it by Lib Dems. The biggest problem is covering preexisting conditions from day one. This will kill any chance of the program working. But it also has a lot of good provisions.

    Sound spending and balanced budgit amendment is a good idea and long over due, but massive tax breaks to corporations and the MEGA rich don't add up. Everyone wants the benifit of living in the USA, but no one wants to chip in to pay for it.

    It is reported today that Boeing paid ONE person (it's CEO) $13.8 million and paid $13 million in Federal tax. So the CEO of Boeing is worth more than all the benifits of the USA?

    Dems are pushing all these bailouts for mortgages that never should have been made in the first place. Many of these people will never pay these mortgages no matter if they are refinanced at 0%.

    The disability portion of Social Security is streached to the brink, yet they keep adding to the Disability rolls with the most minor problems.

    Honest to goodness from some of the people I see drawing SS disability I believe you could claim you are disabled because you are left handed.

    We won WWI and WWII by ALL Americans making sacrafices. Gas and other comoditiy rationing, draft, factories comendered for war supply production. Now its we will go to war as long as it does not interfer with my Saturday Golf outing.

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    Re: George W. Bush - The 9/11 Interview

    Quote Originally Posted by kydonky View Post
    I remember 9/11 very well. Durring the time right after 9/11 it was 4 days before any official comment was made by the president. A lot of people were questioning where is the president?

    Cheney has revield he was in a bunker after the attacks for several days. Bush was under protection as well.

    When we had a near neuclear meltdown at Three Mile Island, Jimmy Carter went inside the reactor durring the crisis to get a first hand view and assessment of the condition of the reactor.

    George Bush does not get any kudos from me for his actions from 9/11 to 9/15. He took strong action afterwards but I still think he should have at least made a speech to the country.

    Sorry to bring this up but this is what happened on 9/11 and at Three Mile Island.
    This is NOT what happened! I swear I think some people just purposely spread lies. You obviously DO NOT REMEMBER 9/11 VERY WELL! Not sure why you went out of your way to spread this false information, but a simple Google search revealed just how wrong you are on this.

    http://www.americanrhetoric.com/spee...othenation.htm

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    Re: George W. Bush - The 9/11 Interview

    kydonky,

    Are you going to acknowledge that your statements about Bush and the events that transpired on 9/11 are wrong? Or get off on a rant about healthcare, bailouts, and spending, etc, etc, etc?

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    Re: George W. Bush - The 9/11 Interview

    From Boeings annual report for year 2009.....

    Note 5 ? Income Taxes
    The components of earnings before income taxes were:
    Years ended December 31, 2009 2008 2007
    U.S. $1,638 $3,794 $5,901
    Non-U.S. 93 201 217
    $1,731 $3,995 $6,118
    Income tax expense/(benefit) consisted of the following:
    Years ended December 31, 2009 2008 2007
    Current tax expense
    U.S. federal $(132) $ 44 $1,260
    Non-U.S. 69 29 139
    U.S. state 145 20 164
    82 93 1,563
    Deferred tax expense
    U.S. federal 457 1,151 487
    Non-U.S. (55) 26 (6)
    U.S. state (88) 71 16
    314 1,248 497
    Total income tax expense $ 396 $1,341 $2,060
    Net income tax payments/(refunds) were ($198), $599 and $711 in 2009, 2008 and 2007, respectively.
    Our effective income tax rate was 22.9%, 33.6%, and 33.7% for the years ended December 31, 2009,
    2008, and 2007, respectively. Our effective tax rate was lower in 2009 primarily because tax credits
    such as Research and Development credits represented a higher proportion of earnings before taxes
    due to the year-over-year reduction in earnings. The following is a reconciliation of the U.S. federal
    statutory tax rate of 35% to our effective income tax rate:
    Years ended December 31, 2009 2008 2007
    U.S. federal statutory tax 35.0% 35.0% 35.0%
    Research and Development credits (10.1) (4.3) (2.4)
    Tax on international activities (2.4) (0.7) 1.0
    Tax deductible dividends (2.2) (0.8) (0.4)
    State income tax provision, net of effect on U.S. federal tax 2.2 1.7 1.6
    Other provision adjustments 0.4 2.7 (1.1)
    Effective income tax rate 22.9% 33.6% 33.7%
    69

    That is a little hard to read, but basically it states that boeing paid 10 craploads of taxes in each of those 3 years. I don't know where you got your numbers from but THESE are from their annual stockholders report, a federally mandated SOX reporting mechanism.

    Here is the link:

    http://www.annualreports.com/HostedD...ive/ba2009.pdf

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    Re: George W. Bush - The 9/11 Interview

    Quote Originally Posted by mperry View Post
    I understand some people don't like Bush but I don't understand how this crap just keeps getting made up.

    Actual facts are hard to come by on here for the most part. You usually get the "facts" that support the posters ideas and have to do the research yourself to find the truth.

    One thing that kept driving me crazy was the chain emails that were getting posted on here and people believing them and ranting about them until someone took the time to look the info up and point out it wasn't true.



    Quote Originally Posted by mperry View Post
    I would hate to see what would happen if something like that happened under the current Presidents watch.

    Not a lot of difference in a statement like this and making stuff up in my opinion because we don't know how things would have went but lots of post have been made saying the same thing and that's why I said I hate speculating in the post I made the other day.

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    Re: George W. Bush - The 9/11 Interview

    Although we will not know (hopefully never again) how any other president handles the same situation, we can look at how our current president has performed thus far. His economic plans have been disastrous at best. His "change" that he promised has been for the worse. Although I will give him this, he inherited alot of economic issues (caused by 9/11) but he has proven that he has no lcue on how to fix this. Now if all of us would get off our high horses (Rep or Dems) and look seriously at the work our Senators, Representatives, and our President has done the last 2-3 years, no one can justify re-electing any of these guys. We need to send a message to Washington that alot of this non-sense will not be tolerated!! Please vote (not your party but your common sense).

    Check out this link:

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/m...165641960.html

    Tim
    Last edited by bassmaster; 08-31-2011 at 06:09 PM.

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    Re: George W. Bush - The 9/11 Interview

    Whoa! I was just going to post that I missed the interview but I'll keep an eye out for it, but I see the discussion has gone WAY beyond that!

    I figure they'll probably show it again before the anniversary.

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    Re: George W. Bush - The 9/11 Interview

    If the members of congress feel the pinch and don't like it then they should never had run. Were they that stupid to not know what the job paid? What the hours were? What the job description and demands were? IMO they are overpaid.
    These idiots piss me off with their crap. Vote em out and start over!!!!!

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