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    I agree with Don this will kill all tournies out of Indiana on the Ohio. Does DNR really think people are keeping fish out of the Ohio? I personally along with many people I know wouldn't eat anything out of this stretch of river. The pools between Rocky Point and Smithland also don't have the creeks and cover that pools such as Smithland have. Smithland Pool is one of the best fisheries on the Ohio if not the best and they have a 12" limit.

    Personally just another IDNR failed attempt of trying to manage a fishery.

    What any club should/will do if this passes is just go across the bridge and take out of KY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR21Bassin View Post
    I agree with Don this will kill all tournies out of Indiana on the Ohio. Does DNR really think people are keeping fish out of the Ohio? I personally along with many people I know wouldn't eat anything out of this stretch of river. The pools between Rocky Point and Smithland also don't have the creeks and cover that pools such as Smithland have. Smithland Pool is one of the best fisheries on the Ohio if not the best and they have a 12" limit.

    Personally just another IDNR failed attempt of trying to manage a fishery.


    What any club should/will do if this passes is just go across the bridge and take out of KY.
    I think this is an excellent attempt at managing the fisheries. It just in it's current state not an excellent standard for tournaments.Its easy to forget tournament anglers are the smallest group of people involved in this, and just because you dont like it for your tournaments doesnt mean its bad for everybody.

    I hope people who come on here to complain about it make/made attempts to reach the meetings to express concerns and or idea. Nothing irks me more than hearing people complain yet take no action in regards to the issue they have.

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    Have went to several meetings in the past and everytime I've found the meetings were just something they were doing to appease the public. DNR had already made their mind up and had the change in the works.

    I could care less what it does to tournament weights even though I fish tournies. The overall concept will not work or show any benefit on this stretch of river.

    IDNR is not worried about improving bass fishing. In fact I've got a good friend that works at a hatchery in Indiana and a couple years ago they had about 500,000 leftover bass fingerlings that they offered to the IDNR. IDNR did not take them so they gave them to KDFW which gladly accepted and put in KY Lakes.

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    I could be wrong but I dont believe this regulation change is supposed to change anything for the Ohio River. Regulations for the Ohio river are completely separate from the regs for the rest of the state. I agree that if this was applied to the Ohio River it would be the end to tourney trails and many bass clubs fishing the Ohio out of any Indiana boat ramps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dac View Post
    I could be wrong but I dont believe this regulation change is supposed to change anything for the Ohio River. Regulations for the Ohio river are completely separate from the regs for the rest of the state. I agree that if this was applied to the Ohio River it would be the end to tourney trails and many bass clubs fishing the Ohio out of any Indiana boat ramps.
    Or fishing on the IN side. At least we will find out how much 3 eleven inches bass weight.

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    While the current wording of the proposed regs doesn't allow for it, IDNR is aware of the concern and are working with enforcement to figure out the best way to word the exception for Ohio R embayments.

    Personally, I think it's a pretty cool reg myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandit1 View Post
    Seems to me like if one state done this then the whole river & all the creeks weather Indiana, kentucky or Ohio would have to be the same or its going to be a pain in the butt to try to keep it all straight. Then being the game warden that pulls a boat over to check his or her fish would be a whole new ball game. The reason I say this is if I put in at Rocky point & go to Clover & catch a limit that is all 13- 14 inches then go back to Deer to weigh these in, & a game warden is sitting there, will I get a ticket for having fish in the slot? Seems like more of a head ache than what they are thinking.

    Just my 2 cents I reckon.

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    If it helps any... you have to abide by the laws of the state you are weighing in at. I could be wrong, but I think Kentucky lake is property of both Tennessee and Kentucky, and both have different small mouth regulations.

    So you can catch all the legal bass in Kentucky you want, but if you weigh in Indiana, any of those bass that are illegal by Indiana standards cant be weighed.

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    Guys, As President of First River City Bass Masters and a person that fishes the Ohio River for Bass +30 Times a year, this rule is not designed for the flooded creeks we fish on the Ohio River. These creeks are not the same as the beautiful streams we have through out the state. The streams in state are full of smallmouth and I agree this would implement the right legality to the equation and would increase the quality of bass within.

    I have requested a Public Hearing to be schedule for the anglers that fish out of Jeffersonville, Tell City, Lawrenceburg, Evansville, and everyone in between. Right now, they have 2 scheduled for Peru, IN and Spencer, IN. IDNR has not repsonded to my 2 written requests.

    The river is delaing with the carp problem that is 60% out of control, headed to 80%. If it ever gets to 100%, that kill all the bass fishing regardless of any size limit. Please don't let the IDNR kill it before the carp do.

    I think we need to support the people that have supported all of us and fight to keep tournaments alive and active. Perry County Chamber of Commerce, Perry Marine, Big Tales, Holiday Inn, Ramada Inn, Days Inn and all the restuarants in Tell City beg for the tournament fishermen. We support the local business.

    I bet the folks in Lawrenceburg would say the same.

    Cheers to all and good fishing! EAT MO' CARP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggestjig View Post
    Guys, As President of First River City Bass Masters and a person that fishes the Ohio River for Bass +30 Times a year, this rule is not designed for the flooded creeks we fish on the Ohio River. These creeks are not the same as the beautiful streams we have through out the state. The streams in state are full of smallmouth and I agree this would implement the right legality to the equation and would increase the quality of bass within.

    I have requested a Public Hearing to be schedule for the anglers that fish out of Jeffersonville, Tell City, Lawrenceburg, Evansville, and everyone in between. Right now, they have 2 scheduled for Peru, IN and Spencer, IN. IDNR has not repsonded to my 2 written requests.

    The river is delaing with the carp problem that is 60% out of control, headed to 80%. If it ever gets to 100%, that kill all the bass fishing regardless of any size limit. Please don't let the IDNR kill it before the carp do.

    I think we need to support the people that have supported all of us and fight to keep tournaments alive and active. Perry County Chamber of Commerce, Perry Marine, Big Tales, Holiday Inn, Ramada Inn, Days Inn and all the restuarants in Tell City beg for the tournament fishermen. We support the local business.

    I bet the folks in Lawrenceburg would say the same.

    Cheers to all and good fishing! EAT MO' CARP!
    couldnt agree more. the carp problem is ridiculous and gets worse every day. I live right right by poison creek and fish all of the other creeks in perry county and there are schools of carp everywhere. every type of fishing has gotten progressively worse. dad and i used to be able to go out and catch some real nice crappie and now if you catch a few over 11-12 inches youre doing good. the bass bite has been worse and worse. something has to be done about the carp for sure.

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    The carp problem is terrible I agree 110%. Bad thing is I think it's to late for the population to be eliminated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinM View Post
    The carp problem is terrible I agree 110%. Bad thing is I think it's to late for the population to be eliminated.
    I read on the internet some where that there was a fish kill that happened up in Northern IN somewhere. Tissue samples of the fish were sent to Purdue University for patholgy testing. The veternarian pathologist at Purdue discovered that the fish were contaminated with a virus that was specific to this species of carp. The virus only attacks and kills one species of fish and did not bother any other fish species.

    Which made me wonder if we could use such a virus to kill just the invasive carp in our rivers while not harming the other wildlife? That would be a nice relief from all those invasive carp and other fish like Snake Head that were imported to this country.

    Maybe some virus will mutate and infect just these carp and control their overpopulation?

    Many times as a speices overpopulates a disease will take over the population and control it's numbers. It's a form of natural biofeed back mechnism.

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    it's sad now that you can't even run on the river at wot without having to worry about getting killed from a flying carp...now that the weather has cooled off some, i for one will be wearing a motorcycle helmet anytime when going over 25 mph.

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