UK Foootball -National Championship

[Tim_T]

Tim T,

I usually don't agree with Clyde, but if you think a win over Texas in 1993 and a loss to Oklahoma by 3 touchdowns in 1999 makes Louisville competitive year in and year out against these 2 powerhouses plus others in the Big 12, you are more delusional than I thought. Every kid on Louisvilles current squad was either still in diapers or barely potty trained when they beat Texas and in elementary school when they lost to OU. I hardly see these 2 games ad proof that Louisville could be competitive in the Big12. When I say competitive, I mean with an outside chance to win the league. Kentucky is not and will not EVER have a chance to win the SEC and are doormats. I think Louisville would be the same in the Big 12 going against the likes of Texas, OU, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M and such.

Did anybody but me read the quote where Clyde stated "U of L , don't want no part of the Big 12 conference..They want to have at least some chance of winning a Conference Title in the Mid Major Big East...."


My point was to show that Louisville already has played home and home with the two best teams in the Big 12, as well as with aTm. They are not afraid and would leap at the chance to be in the Big 12. That was my whole point.

Now to your point Elwood, Yes I do believe Louisville would be able to compete in the Big 12 for a few reasons.

1.) Coach Strong is already bringing in top 25 recruiting classes, think about how much easier it is to recruit if you are in the Big 12.

2.) Being in the Big 12 brings a lot more money to the football program, and Tom Jurich, unlike Mitch Brainfart, will actually spend the money on the football program. Doing so means, another upgrade in some of the finest football facilities in the country.

3.) More money and membership in the Big 12 means the ability to hire and keep big time football coaches at Louisville, something that has been a struggle in the past.

4.) anybody that doesnt think that Louisville's young talent is Big 12 Caliber in two years is not paying attention to college football.

Elwood, Kentucky doesn't care about football is the problem, there is no excuse for them not to be competitive in the SEC.

Clyde, why do you even talk football on here? It is not like your team plays college football. UK owned your team so bad in football that your AD quit playing them! For the love of all things holy, your pathetic excuse of a program lost to North Texas yesterday. Perhaps you should talk about something you know a little about, although nobody seems to be able to figure out what that is in your case.

[MsgMills]

As always Tim, you live in the ( PAST )......I'm talkin bout now....the future.....

Indiana's Team ***** like they do almost every year...But wait let me go back in the past and bring up a very good point....Indiana won the Rose Bowl while being in the Big Ten....Can u say that about your beloved Cards? The Rose Bowl I tell ya...The Grand Daddy of them all , prior to the new BCS system being set up.....But hey that was years ago...the Past....

Get outta the past and think now....And no i don't think U of L would be able to any better than maybe about half way up the ladder in the standings if they got into the Big 12. Hell even Kansas had a remarkable year in Football couple years back, but they are like Indiana..**** in football 99% of the time in football.....

And for the record...I could tell you anything you or anyone else needed to know about the Military and explain anything about the the repair and operation of a Train car and the air brake system on a train.

[Tim_T]

As always Tim, you live in the ( PAST )......I'm talkin bout now....the future.....

Indiana's Team ***** like they do almost every year...But wait let me go back in the past and bring up a very good point....Indiana won the Rose Bowl while being in the Big Ten....Can u say that about your beloved Cards? The Rose Bowl I tell ya...The Grand Daddy of them all , prior to the new BCS system being set up.....But hey that was years ago...the Past....

Get outta the past and think now....And no i don't think U of L would be able to any better than maybe about half way up the ladder in the standings if they got into the Big 12. Hell even Kansas had a remarkable year in Football couple years back, but they are like Indiana..**** in football 99% of the time in football.....

And for the record...I could tell you anything you or anyone else needed to know about the Military and explain anything about the the repair and operation of a Train car and the air brake system on a train.

Mills, you really struggle with this whole hatred for Louisville thing don't you? I am not living in the past Clyde, I was talking clearly about the future. You lost the whole thing because you failed to disprove any of my points. I even numbered them so that maybe you could address them individually. Instead, you ignored these points and want on a rant about IU and the Rose Bowl.

If I ever have any questions about the military Clyde, I will make sure to seek you out. As far as trains, my best friend that I have been hunting and fishing with since we were kids and our sons play high school football together, that is the guy I will ask about trains, he drives one every day for CSX.

Btw Clyde, now ain't the future, the future is what is to come.

[MsgMills]

I will make sure to seek you out. As far as trains, my best friend that I have been hunting and fishing with since we were kids and our sons play high school football together, that is the guy I will ask about trains, he drives one every day for CSX.

Driving one and and repairing one is two differnet things in the Railroad world....

[Tim_T]

Driving one and and repairing one is two differnet things in the Railroad world....

Fair enough, if my train breaks down I will be in touch!

[elnutsmalljaws]

I don't care that UK has not been in contention for anything. Guess what, they never will either. But to say Louisville is much the better school than Kentucky over the past 10 years is an absolute JOKE. yes Louisville had a stretch where they won 4 in a row against Kentucky but I do believe that Kentucky win 4 in a row against Louisville, MORE RECENTLY. If you are going to say 10 years then consider all 10 and don't pin the argument on a 12-1 year Louisville had because you followed that up with 6-6, 5-7, 4-8, and 7-6. Don't throw out what your Coach Krapwad did because he us part of the ten years. As far as the advantage of SEC recruiting that UK has, is trumped by playing teams like Florida, South Carolina and LSU back to back to back. If you want Louisville to get the SEC recruiting advantage, then schedule SEC powerhouse teams in your non-conference and beat them over and over. As far as harder to get a BCS bowl bid, then ad Al Davis says " Just win baby". 22-25 for Louisville the past 4 years overall is pathetic, no matter the coach or circumstances. Are there way too many bowl games, ABSOLUTELY. Would Kentucky have gone to a bowl each of the last however many years in a row if there were fewer Bowl games, ABSOLUTELY NOT. Is it better to be a doormat in the SEC or mediocre in the Big East, a wash. Any way you look at it, Louisville is not far and above better than Kentucky the past 10 years. They both over the 10 years are mediocre at best

[bplgocards]

I don't care that UK has not been in contention for anything. Guess what, they never will either. But to say Louisville is much the better school than Kentucky over the past 10 years is an absolute JOKE. yes Louisville had a stretch where they won 4 in a row against Kentucky but I do believe that Kentucky win 4 in a row against Louisville, MORE RECENTLY. If you are going to say 10 years then consider all 10 and don't pin the argument on a 12-1 year Louisville had because you followed that up with 6-6, 5-7, 4-8, and 7-6. Don't throw out what your Coach Krapwad did because he us part of the ten years. As far as the advantage of SEC recruiting that UK has, is trumped by playing teams like Florida, South Carolina and LSU back to back to back. If you want Louisville to get the SEC recruiting advantage, then schedule SEC powerhouse teams in your non-conference and beat them over and over. As far as harder to get a BCS bowl bid, then ad Al Davis says " Just win baby". 22-25 for Louisville the past 4 years overall is pathetic, no matter the coach or circumstances. Are there way too many bowl games, ABSOLUTELY. Would Kentucky have gone to a bowl each of the last however many years in a row if there were fewer Bowl games, ABSOLUTELY NOT. Is it better to be a doormat in the SEC or mediocre in the Big East, a wash. Any way you look at it, Louisville is not far and above better than Kentucky the past 10 years. They both over the 10 years are mediocre at best

Talk to me at the end of the season when your team is 3-9 smallnuts

[elnutsmalljaws]

Talk to me at the end of the season when your team is 3-9 smallnuts

Are you giving up?? I don't care if UK is 3-9. I don't believe I was arguing that they would be better than 3-9. I believe the argument was that Louisville was not "Much Better" than UK the past 10 years. Based on the fact that you have given up with "talk to me after the season" you LOSE THE DEBATE!! Keep playing the weak non-conference schedule in the weaker football conference and someday you may be GIVEN a BCS bowl bid but as the other extremely smart poster (Coombro) noted, you have to EARN it in the SEC. Typical Louisville fan that I pointed out earlier, using Speculation and Might Happen to try and win a debate.

[bplgocards]

Are you giving up?? I don't care if UK is 3-9. I don't believe I was arguing that they would be better than 3-9. I believe the argument was that Louisville was not "Much Better" than UK the past 10 years. Based on the fact that you have given up with "talk to me after the season" you LOSE THE DEBATE!! Keep playing the weak non-conference schedule in the weaker football conference and someday you may be GIVEN a BCS bowl bid but as the other extremely smart poster (Coombro) noted, you have to EARN it in the SEC. Typical Louisville fan that I pointed out earlier, using Speculation and Might Happen to try and win a debate.

How many BCS bowls has UK won? 0.

[elnutsmalljaws]

How many BCS bowls has UK won? 0.

Is that 1 year the sole basis for your debate? The Big East had been around since 1979. In 32 years of the conferences existence, how many National Titles in football has the Big East won? I will give you a hint, Kentucky won the National Title in 1951, which is exactly 1 more than the current Big East conference TOTAL had won. I think Miami was a member of the Big East when they won their title. Current BCS format, SEC 7-0 in Championship game appearances. SEC has 15 BCS Bowl wins, most in history. Kentucky far and above play the tougher schedule in the TOUGHEST Conference.

[bplgocards]

Is that 1 year the sole basis for your debate? The Big East had been around since 1979. In 32 years of the conferences existence, how many National Titles in football has the Big East won? I will give you a hint, Kentucky won the National Title in 1951, which is exactly 1 more than the current Big East conference TOTAL had won. I think Miami was a member of the Big East when they won their title. Current BCS format, SEC 7-0 in Championship game appearances. SEC has 15 BCS Bowl wins, most in history. Kentucky far and above play the tougher schedule in the TOUGHEST Conference.

Too bad UK can't beat any SEC teams. Maybe you should apply to the MAC or Sun Belt.

[elnutsmalljaws]

Too bad UK can't beat any SEC teams. Maybe you should apply to the MAC or Sun Belt.

Too bad Louisville does not have the Stones to apply for the SEC. Your league is so stable with such a bright future that 2 of the founding members are jumping ship. The SEC is so strong that it is adding Texas A&M to the league next year. A&M dominates EVERY team in the Big East and won't even make the top 3 in the SEC

Speaking of the MAC, wasn't Marshall a member of the MAC in 2002 when they played a certain team from Louisville in a Bowl Game? How did that turn out for you? 38-15 The Thundering Herd!!!!