OMG, Joe the Plumer is running for office ...

[FlyLie]

So, can he fix the leaks in his home state, much less those on Capital Hill...? I would question his qualifications, but compared to the incumbents, he just might be over qualified. Will be interesting to follow his venture into politics. [/I]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireS...gress-14706722

[GeoFisher]

You act as if the world is going to end. Yea, he might not be qualified, but I'd much rather someone not qualified ( as a politician) to run than a POLITICIAN to run and win.

He is a WORKING MAN, and has owned his own company. Anyone who needs to make a payroll knows what taxes does to the WORKING MAN. And knows what is what with labor.

I wouldn't mind him running. I would in fact love to see a "Joe the Plumber" on the ticket in every race in EVERY STATE........if just 25% of them won, that would seriously jolt the establishment, which is exactly what is needed.

Later,

Geo

[FlyLie]

You act as if the world is going to end. Yea, he might not be qualified, but I'd much rather someone not qualified ( as a politician) to run than a POLITICIAN to run and win.

He is a WORKING MAN, and has owned his own company. Anyone who needs to make a payroll knows what taxes does to the WORKING MAN. And knows what is what with labor.

I wouldn't mind him running. I would in fact love to see a "Joe the Plumber" on the ticket in every race in EVERY STATE........if just 25% of them won, that would seriously jolt the establishment, which is exactly what is needed.

Later,

Geo

By qualified, my reference would be to his "skills at negotiation, i.e., the ability to negotiate an acceptable, and reasonable solution between the extreme Left and Right wing political views.. Seems there is a lot of that lacking today! Also, any candidate should have a basic education and some degree of experience with the legislative process. No problem here with the "working man running for office". Hey, if I were in Ohio, just might vote for Joe.

With reference to your statemen: "Yea, he might not be qualified, but I'd much rather someone not qualified ( as a politician) to run than a POLITICIAN to run and win." NO WAY, if his not qualified, he should get a journeymen's lic. We don't need another "Jimmy Carter" floundering around at the White House.

[bassin_bug]

[QUOTE=FlyLie;468911].........Also, any candidate should have a basic education.....


BASIC EDUCATION?!! I have spent some time trying to find out exactly how much education "Joe the Plumber" has and haven't been able to find it. Would you tell me EXACTLY how much education the man has and post your source of information? Just because the man is a plumber doesn't mean that he is illiterate or a dimwit. What do you consider a basic education?

I have read a lot of posts on other boards that were hammering the man because of his lack of education. Strangely enough, NOT ONE of them stated how much he had; I haven't even read it in news reports.

I can tell you from my own experiences that some people, who don't have much education, try to tear down the person who does in order to make themselves look smarter and/or compensate for their own inadequacies. Every damned one of them uses the same two words to try and describe educated people, "Educated fool." We're not talking about me here, and I apologize for bringing my experiences into the conversation but when you said, 'basic education' I want to know just what you mean. I once had an ignorant smart@ss call me an educated fool. I went off on him and wouldn't let up until he explained to me why he called me that name and why he said it. Here is his exact words, "you use 'high dollar' words that nobody understands," and I asked him what a 'high dollar' word was because I had never bought one. He said, "you just said 'permission' and nobody but you knows what it means." I lauged until my ribs ached, then answered, 'you really never went to school, did you?' I set out to find the extent of his education and learned that his mother allowed him to quit school in the fifth grade...when he was 16 years old. After all those years he still hadn't learned when to keep his mouth shut..he just had to open it and prove he was a fool.

If you attended some of my husband's classes, you would be surprised at the number of people he meets who have advanced college degrees. It is unwise to assume that the man or woman working as a "grunt" (hard, back breaking job) has little to no education. There are school teachers, nurses, administrators, etc., who have left their chosen career primarily because of job burnout, layoff, or because they hated the routine grind of what they were doing. They are now ironworkers, welders, millwrights, carpenters, housekeepers, and pipefitters (plumbers). Some of them were just returning to jobs they had held before college graduation and were dissatisfied with their career choice. Others wanted to try a new, less stressful job.

Thus far, only "Joe the Plumber" truly knows "Joe the Plumber" and what he is capable of. I wish him all the best.

[artcarney_agr]

Just because the man is a plumber doesn't mean that he is illiterate or a dimwit. What do you consider a basic education?

If you attended some of my husband's classes, you would be surprised at the number of people he meets who have advanced college degrees. It is unwise to assume that the man or woman working as a "grunt" (hard, back breaking job) has little to no education. There are school teachers, nurses, administrators, etc., who have left their chosen career primarily because of job burnout, layoff, or because they hated the routine grind of what they were doing. They are now ironworkers, welders, millwrights, carpenters, housekeepers, and pipefitters (plumbers). Some of them were just returning to jobs they had held before college graduation and were dissatisfied with their career choice. Others wanted to try a new, less stressful job.

There is quite a bit of truth to this. In addition to this there are quite a few people that have taken early retirement after reaching their career goals, and now work as a "grunt" part-time just to have something to do or to have play money or to just get away from the wife for a few hours a day

[MsgMills]

There is quite a bit of truth to this. In addition to this there are quite a few people that have taken early retirement after reaching their career goals, and now work as a "grunt" part-time just to have something to do or to have play money or to just get away from the wife for a few hours a day

Couldn't have said it better myself..................

[Chubminnow]

Without an education a person needs intelligence to be able to survive in this world. Without intelligence a person needs to get an education in order to survive.

If a person has both intelligence and an education then more than likely he's going to be well off.

[DJD]

For sure I would back the man. He could be just another piece of the pie to get more of the old knuckleheads out of office!

Even if he showed up for work and just voted as we hired these crooks to do he would be better than most who already hold the offices.

Gotta face it...we as a country have floundered on bottom for years so there is no way but up.

[FlyLie]

A bit more on Joe the plumber:

Sen. John McCain, the Republican nominee, who dubbed Wurzelbacher ?Joe the Plumber? and referred to him repeatedly for the rest of the campaign.

The media scrutiny that comes with the spotlight quickly revealed that Wurzelbacher was actually an unlicensed plumber with unpaid back taxes.

Sounds like he just might fit right in!

Full article: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...+-+Politics%29

[kygorski]

We got the best government that the special interests can buy.

[FlyLie]

We got the best government that the special interests can buy.

We need more money......He...hee...., then maybe we could OUTSOURSE the government......,

[FlyLie]

Enough of this banter, but as I said, it will be interesting watch his campaign. Stayed tuned to OHIO..