Occupy Wall Street

[DJD]

Have you folks been keeping up with this? I'm still trying to wrap my head around what they are protesting?

I know they are griping about wall street but shouldn't they be upset with the Gubment as much or more? Legislators make the laws not wall street. Gubment bailed the banks out not wall street. Gubment caused the collapse in the economy not wall street (imo). When do the politicians get blamed?

The Tea Party went after the source. Maybe these folks should have paid attention and joined the ranks when there was a more organized movement? Think some "occupy folks" are liberal and didn't want to side with Conservative minded folks? Think maybe since Nancy P, POTUS and others mocked the TEA Party they just did the same without trying to understand what was going on? Tea Party got results...still to be seen what happens with this group of folks.

Why are some Unions getting involved? They received money from the bailouts right? They could have paid it back by now but they still benefit from our tax dollars. They side with big gubment right? Isn't big gubment tied to big corporations..the ones that these folks are griping about?

Why are some very wealthy celebrities getting involved? Are they not the folks who get tagged as not paying their share of taxes? Are they just looking for a photo op?

Whats the real message? I'm pissed off cause I lost my job? I'm pissed cause I don't want to pay back student loans? I'm pissed cause I have nothing to do and the gubment isn't helping? I'm pissed cause I'm not a minority getting special funding in college? What????

http://occupywallst.org/

Geez i just spent a minute or two reading about neoliberalism (the claim by these folks on what they are against) and I'm way way way away from their beliefs. They claim the reason we can't afford Healthcare, Mortgages, Education and Food is because of neoliberalism. Geez where have we heard this before?? Uhhh last POTUS campaign???

Personally, I like the private sector and survival of the fit. The gubment poking it's nose in to boost their agenda is the problem. Picking private companies and choosing to spend our tax dollars on their favorite contributors (solyndra) is wrong.

[know1]

I think the real message is:

"I want a handout. Wall Street got one, so I should too."

I was against the Wall Street bailout, but I'm against bailouts for pretty much anyone.

Not too surprising a sentiment in a country where half the people pay NO Income Tax yet take advantage of the infrastructure, laws, military, etc.

I heard someone say this morning if the Occupy Wall Street protests go on much longer, Whole Foods Markets will have to file for bankruptcy due to their employees not showing up for work. ;-)

[bassin_bug]

This is a group of people that are essentially clueless and have no leadership and no particular goal, or too many goals in mind. With that said, they are open to follow whatever person or group that steps forward, gives them a collective agenda, financial aid to operate, and a name with which to identify. Then they become a bundled political group which is a fascist movement like the one established by Mussolini in Italy from 1922-1943.

It can then take one of two directions and become Fascism or Socialism, which I believe the United States is ripe for because of the direction the country has taken. It is like a flock of sheep without a shepherd. Mismanagement of the financial system, loss of jobs, home foreclosures, people wanting money they didn't work for, government subsidies, bailouts, and generalized crooked leadership.

If it becomes Socialist it will likely become a social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. If this theory is practiced it becomes the Marxist theory which is the stage following Capitalism in the transition of society to Communism characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.

It makes me extremely uneasy now that the Occupy Wall Street gang has the support of unions and so many more are joining them. There are also people with a lot of financial muscle that are now backing this organization and dumping money into their coffers.

For years there has been an enormous computer system in Brussels, Belgium that has been set up to manage the world's money system in preparation for a one world government. Ironically it was named "The Beast." In years past, I have heard reporters and religious organizations say that, one day, it would handle all the money in the world, would be controlled by the Anti-Christ, who would require The Mark of The Beast in order for people to buy and sell. Occasionally I will hear something about The Beast and the enormous size building that houses it, but not recently.

There was a time when people called the United States the wealthiest country in the world but I think it now ranks somewhere between 7-10.

[Chubminnow]

What's the main goal or objective of these protests? And what occurs when their goal is met?

I don't think they have set a goal have they? I don't understand why they're wasting they're time....they oughta take themselves and protest in Washington D.C. in front of the White House.

[MrSplitshot]

Good Lord, their website is about as dysfunctional as their unified voice.

I did manage to find this on there, from an anonymous Occupy Wall Street Protestor:

We do not hate corporations. We hate corporations that underpay their employees so they can make more money, out source their jobs, allow unsafe working conditions and health violations to occur, destroy the environment, and influence politics with their money.

Hmmm.

SO, they basically want corporations to ignore the fundamental need for PROFIT? Just pay employees more. Just overlook the taxes and regulation that the government is smothering you with and keep your production in the US - Don't take it overseas. Just take less profit for your shareholders. Okay. Then, 6 months later when the company's doors close, they can go from being underpaid to not paid at all.

Sounds like an anti-capitalism, to heck with free enterprise, re-distribution of wealth, socialist mosh-pit to me. I'd bet you my next paycheck that 5 out of every 10 protestors have no idea what they are protesting about. They're mad that some CEO makes $4 Million a year and they don't...well...go get yourself a college degree, stay for your masters, maybe a doctorate, take an internship, work your way into a corporate job from the ground up, put in a few years of 16-18 hour days, and start your own **** company. You act like that CEO did nothing to get to where he is.

[DJD]

Exactly Brian. The site reads like a bunch of tree hugging folks living off mommy and daddy with little to no idea of what it takes to earn their way.
I'm sure there are some well meaning folks out there but have yet to hear from any of them on the news.
All I hear is crazy talk with babble about everything under the sun. Geez who is footing the bill for these people? Word is George Soros.

[GeoFisher]

Bug I was completely with you until you start spouting one world order conspiracy theories.......

For years there has been an enormous computer system in Brussels, Belgium that has been set up to manage the world's money system in preparation for a one world government. Ironically it was named "The Beast." In years past, I have heard reporters and religious organizations say that, one day, it would handle all the money in the world, would be controlled by the Anti-Christ, who would require The Mark of The Beast in order for people to buy and sell. Occasionally I will hear something about The Beast and the enormous size building that houses it, but not recently.

There is enough mis information in this mess.......and then you bring in this garbage. A single monetary system. There are way too many players that simply will not stand for that. Who is going to enforce it..who is going to manage it......the IMF?? What happens when someone in this massive conspiracy decides not to play with the others?

And for the record..............I know just a little about massive computer systems.......

I don't buy it.

Later,

Geo

[Chubminnow]

For years there has been an enormous computer system in Brussels, Belgium that has been set up to manage the world's money system in preparation for a one world government. Ironically it was named "The Beast." In years past, I have heard reporters and religious organizations say that, one day, it would handle all the money in the world, would be controlled by the Anti-Christ, who would require The Mark of The Beast in order for people to buy and sell. Occasionally I will hear something about The Beast and the enormous size building that houses it, but not recently.

I never knew about a computer system in Belgium that you're speaking of. However, there are been several times in the past that I have heard about one day there would be one world currency. I remember hearing this way back to when I was a kid...mostly religeous folks, preachers, ministers, my mom, etc...especially my mom (God bless mom). Most of you probably know her (mom), she has the personallity of Aunt Bee and June Cleaver but she's several years older, frail and about as skinny as Olive Oil.

Speaking of world currency, I have also heard in the past that some say there wouldn't be a need for "money", the mark of the beast thing and so on. There have been times that I was wondering if we're presently living in the day where no one needs money? I'm talking about money as in cash, paper money and coins. My paycheck is directly deposited...in fact I never even see a copy of my paycheck unless I log onto some website (that I can't remember), log in with my user name and password (that I can't remember), and then print it out. I don't care for a debit card so I don't have one, but I have a credit card that I pay in full every month and it's accepted practically everywhere. Once again, I don't use money to pay it, I write a check, or...better yet, I could pay it online if I chose to do so.

I'm beginning to think there isn't a need for money...now days I'm just working for a bunch of hard earned electronic numbers in lieu of hard earned cash, then I turn around and give these numbers to someone else.

[Tom523]

If it becomes Socialist it will likely become a social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. (Conservapedia)