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    Re: Bring em all home!

    Some very bright people have said" war is the failure of diplomacy" What did we accomplish? The only way we could sell autos in Europe, was to build factorys in collaberation with their auto makers. Same with Japan, did we lose?We destroyed them, and rebuilt them, who won?We wanted free elections in Lebanon, what happened, pro muslim government. There has been only one nation that ever tried to invade us. England. Villia made several raids, and was dealt with. In history, armies that invaded usually brought back plunder.Wars are also fought for economic gain, where were either of those two in Iraq? We instituted the Monroe doctrine to stop colonization of south america. Do ALL the south americans love us for that?Tunis is having elections today, odds are it may be a theocacy that is the big winner. How does that help us? We preach democracy, but look at how a small group of wealkthy contributors has dead locked the government. No One Loves Policemen.

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    Re: Bring em all home!

    [QUOTE=kygorski;470559]Some very bright people have said" war is the failure of diplomacy" What did we accomplish? We destroyed them, and rebuilt them, who won?QUOTE]

    We did. And diplomacy is keeping it that way. We kill dictators and terrorists who inspire their people to attack us. We don't punish nations, just leaders and their followers.

    Since WWII, Germany and Japan, both rebuilt, and both stay at home to play.
    North Korea talks alot, but doesn't invade. Hasn't been a fight in Vietnam has there? Russia has attacked no one, neither China. We never fought them, and them and us both know why..diplomacy and lunacy.

    Accomplishments:
    -Since 9/11/01, there have been no more successful attacks on US soil.
    -Sadam is toast
    -Osama is toast
    -Gaddafi is toast
    -Anwar al-Awlaki is toast.
    -Abu Hafs al-Shahri is toast.
    -Al Qaeda’s chief of Pakistan operations, Abu Hafs al-Shahri, was killed in Waziristan, Pakistan.
    -In August, ‘Atiyah ‘Abd al-Rahman, the deputy leader of al Qaeda was killed.
    -In June, one of al Qaeda’s most dangerous commanders, Ilyas Kashmiri, was killed in Pakistan.
    -In Yemen that same month, three AQAP senior operatives Ammar al-Wa’ili, Abu Ali al-Harithi, and Ali Saleh Farhan were killed.
    -In Somalia, Al-Qa’ida in East Africa (AQEA) senior leader Harun Fazul was killed.
    -Administration officials also herald the recent U.S./Pakistani joint arrest of Younis al-Mauritani in Quetta.
    -Going back to August 2009, Tehrik e-Taliban Pakistan leader Baitullah Mahsud was killed in Pakistan.
    -In September 2009, Jemayah Islamiya operational planner Noordin Muhammad Top was killed in Indonesia
    -In September 2009 AQEA planner Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan was killed in Somalia.
    -In December 2009 in Pakistan, al Qaeda operational commanders Saleh al-Somali and ‘Abdallah Sa’id were killed.
    -In February 2010, in Pakistan, Taliban deputy and military commander Abdul Ghani Beradar was captured.
    -In February 2010, Haqqani network commander Muhammad Haqqani was killed
    -In February 2010, Lashkar-e Jhangvi leader Qari Zafar was killed.
    -In March 2010, al Qaeda operative Hussein al-Yemeni was killed in Pakistan
    -In March 2010, senior Jemayah Islamiya operative Dulmatin - accused of being the mastermind behind the 2002 Bali bombings – was killed during a raid in Indonesia.
    -In April 2010, al Qaeda in Iraq leaders Abu Ayyub al-Masri and Abu Omar al-Baghdadi were killed.
    -In May, al Qaeda’s number three commander, Sheik Saeed al-Masri was killed.
    -In June 2010 in Pakistan, al Qaeda commander Hamza al-Jawfi was killed.

    I think its time for most of our folks to come home. I think the tone has been set. I think there's folks out there who realize, 4 airplanes in one day in 2001, has gotten them a world of hurt over the passed 10 years. And it came at a price as it always does to us. Nobody said freedom was free.

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    Re: Bring em all home!

    [QUOTE=HURRICANEBOB;470589]
    Quote Originally Posted by kygorski View Post
    Some very bright people have said" war is the failure of diplomacy" What did we accomplish? We destroyed them, and rebuilt them, who won?QUOTE]

    We did. And diplomacy is keeping it that way. We kill dictators and terrorists who inspire their people to attack us. We don't punish nations, just leaders and their followers.

    Since WWII, Germany and Japan, both rebuilt, and both stay at home to play.
    North Korea talks alot, but doesn't invade. Hasn't been a fight in Vietnam has there? Russia has attacked no one, neither China. We never fought them, and them and us both know why..diplomacy and lunacy.

    Accomplishments:
    -Since 9/11/01, there have been no more successful attacks on US soil.
    -Sadam is toast
    -Osama is toast
    -Gaddafi is toast
    -Anwar al-Awlaki is toast.
    -Abu Hafs al-Shahri is toast.
    -Al Qaeda’s chief of Pakistan operations, Abu Hafs al-Shahri, was killed in Waziristan, Pakistan.
    -In August, ‘Atiyah ‘Abd al-Rahman, the deputy leader of al Qaeda was killed.
    -In June, one of al Qaeda’s most dangerous commanders, Ilyas Kashmiri, was killed in Pakistan.
    -In Yemen that same month, three AQAP senior operatives Ammar al-Wa’ili, Abu Ali al-Harithi, and Ali Saleh Farhan were killed.
    -In Somalia, Al-Qa’ida in East Africa (AQEA) senior leader Harun Fazul was killed.
    -Administration officials also herald the recent U.S./Pakistani joint arrest of Younis al-Mauritani in Quetta.
    -Going back to August 2009, Tehrik e-Taliban Pakistan leader Baitullah Mahsud was killed in Pakistan.
    -In September 2009, Jemayah Islamiya operational planner Noordin Muhammad Top was killed in Indonesia
    -In September 2009 AQEA planner Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan was killed in Somalia.
    -In December 2009 in Pakistan, al Qaeda operational commanders Saleh al-Somali and ‘Abdallah Sa’id were killed.
    -In February 2010, in Pakistan, Taliban deputy and military commander Abdul Ghani Beradar was captured.
    -In February 2010, Haqqani network commander Muhammad Haqqani was killed
    -In February 2010, Lashkar-e Jhangvi leader Qari Zafar was killed.
    -In March 2010, al Qaeda operative Hussein al-Yemeni was killed in Pakistan
    -In March 2010, senior Jemayah Islamiya operative Dulmatin - accused of being the mastermind behind the 2002 Bali bombings – was killed during a raid in Indonesia.
    -In April 2010, al Qaeda in Iraq leaders Abu Ayyub al-Masri and Abu Omar al-Baghdadi were killed.
    -In May, al Qaeda’s number three commander, Sheik Saeed al-Masri was killed.
    -In June 2010 in Pakistan, al Qaeda commander Hamza al-Jawfi was killed.

    I think its time for most of our folks to come home. I think the tone has been set. I think there's folks out there who realize, 4 airplanes in one day in 2001, has gotten them a world of hurt over the passed 10 years. And it came at a price as it always does to us. Nobody said freedom was free.
    Dang Bog thats some great info! I agree it's time to bring them home where we can.....Great job by the troops!!

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    Thats great research Bob, how many radical muslims are left?This is a wackamole game, our actions are breeding them.I dont want to weaken our country, I want our government to make a clear direct statement, that terrorism against us will result major retaliation. AND NO REBUILDING.This is getting stupid, now were talking tough with syriam they are violating human rights. Syria. We dont do that? So far killing what they call disenters. They are scum, trouble makers. We dont have those? And for your information, this with drawel date was made by the PAST administration. Nobahma is right, if there is no SOFA agreement, pull our troops.

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    Re: Bring em all home!

    [QUOTE=DJD;470595]
    Quote Originally Posted by HURRICANEBOB View Post

    Dang Bog thats some great info! I agree it's time to bring them home where we can.....Great job by the troops!!
    Things got slow at work......

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