thanks guys,
nothing has hit 21 this fall some 20.5's
dont use a throw net, i have a lift net off the back of a HBoat.

I try to give the info id like if i was coming this way.....

I usually fish deeper water and i seldom use a bank as a reference point, depth an slight structure changes, with deep water handy will produce the majority of the time.

for those of you who want particulars ill help but i seldom check here everyday, so email me and Ill help if i can [email protected]

Its almost light enough headN out