LSU Vs BAMA

[DJD]

They are probably going to end up in the Big East or whatever it is called. The reason they haven't moved is because there was no expansion going on. The BCS teams want to keep as many teams out as they can because it means a larger share of the pie for the rest. You are dealing with college athletics, which is one of the most corrupt businesses in the country. They are the private $1 billion business that is tax exempt and violates anti trust laws.

Tim,
Thanks for both answers!

[Devils Horse]

Alabama already blew their shot, why shouldn't Boise St. get a shot? I believe LSU will win it all, and would handle Boise, but who's to say. Boise has a very good offense and a talented qb. I know they are not facing the competition that others do, but that is not there fault. They beat georgia, who is going to play LSU for the SEC title, so if they go undefeated give them a shot. Every year you hear the same argument about teams in the non-bcs conferences, but then they win bowl games. Heck Look at the teams Boise has beaten in the last few years in their bowl games. They didn't have a chance against Oklahoma either, how'd that work out?

Why not indeed. I'll concede your point, as long as I don't have to watch teams play on that Godawful blue field of theirs. If they do get a shot, I'll bet you a beer (if we ever meet in person) LSU wins by at least 2 TD's.

[Tim_T]

Why not indeed. I'll concede your point, as long as I don't have to watch teams play on that Godawful blue field of theirs. If they do get a shot, I'll bet you a beer (if we ever meet in person) LSU wins by at least 2 TD's.

I wouldn't take that bet because I believe LSU is the best team and have said so on this very board. Besides, I don't drink!

If the NCAA basketball champion was determined using these methods people would go nuts! Heck, using the flawed logic of the BCS and many fans, Butler wouldn't have been in the tournament, much less gotten a shot at the title. UConn wouldn't have been last years champion, because they wouldn't have gotten invited because they only finished ninth in their conference.

The point is, Bpoise St. is just has good as most anybody and should get a shot. I guess the big schools are getting scared of them because they keep losing to them. Ask Oklahoma or Georgia if they want any of the Broncos!

Heck, if they were in the SEC east this year they would win it and play LSU for the SEC title.

[DJD]

Georgia is playing like a different team right now. Their defense is off the charts good and the running game is crazy good. Boise state would have their hands full with this team now. Boise is good but they can be beat. TCU proved that.

[Tim_T]

I understand that Georgia has improved since the season started, but so has every team in the country, Georgia is more the rule rather than the exception. Obviously anybody can be beat, as TCU proved this weekend. I guess it is hard to fathom to some that good football can be played anywhere else but the SEC.

[DJD]

Naw plenty of teams play good ball but in the last 5 years the championship has come through the SEC. I just love good football ...... As long as Ohio Sate doesn't win another one I'll be ok!

[Tim_T]

Don, don't misnderstand me. I agree the road to the title goes through the SEC and rightfully so. My only point is that some people act like the SEC is the only place that plays football and that if you are in the SEC you are automaticlly worthy of something without earning it. While there is Alabama, LSU, Arkansas etc. there is also Kentucky, Vanderbilt and the Mississippi schools and recently Tennessee that would not win any of the BCS conferences.

The whole system sstinks and is the only thing holding college football back from being the biggest sport in the country.

[Devils Horse]

Don, don't misnderstand me. I agree the road to the title goes through the SEC and rightfully so. My only point is that some people act like the SEC is the only place that plays football and that if you are in the SEC you are automaticlly worthy of something without earning it. While there is Alabama, LSU, Arkansas etc. there is also Kentucky, Vanderbilt and the Mississippi schools and recently Tennessee that would not win any of the BCS conferences.

The whole system sstinks and is the only thing holding college football back from being the biggest sport in the country.

I conceded your point, but you seem to want to argue anyway. Fine by me.

I haven't seen anyone acting like the SEC is the only place where football is played. It's just the best place football is played. Period.

Aside from LSU, Alabama, and Arkansas, Georgia is playing very well lately. Year in and year out you can also expect Florida and Auburn to be top 25 and likely top 5. Miss State, and Ole Miss usually field some good teams too. Vandy would fare better in most any other conference too.

The BCS, and college football in general is certainly flawed, but it's still the biggest amateur sport in the country. I disagree any amateur sport could eclipse pro football, unless the owners' and players' greed puts them on lock out/strike.

I also disagree with you more or less saying college basketball is the shining example. It's not. Every year schools get in the tournament, sometimes because of who they are, while others who deserve to be there wind up in the NIT. For example, UK IMO has probabaly gotten some preferential treatment in the tournament brackets/seedings a time or 2 because of who they are.

BTW, I fell asleep just after the second half started last night, but UK has some serious talent. All that streetball mugging and posing after a good play shows they have long way to go mentally. If you could put Duke players' brains in their bodies, they'd be unbeatable.

[Big Gills]

Naw plenty of teams play good ball but in the last 5 years the championship has come through the SEC. I just love good football ...... As long as Ohio Sate doesn't win another one I'll be ok!

Now it sounds like football is alot like hockey in that a team that you would never think would win the Stanley Cup wins. Like the year the Ottawa Senators were the favourite to win and they had been playing great but a team of ducks from California won. It made no sense to me. Every year is different with teams. Some years they do well and some they dont. Its weird like that. I think the coaching staff have alot to do with that. This may be Alabama's year to win in football. Sometimes I wonder if it isnt just plain luck who wins. Now what does SEC mean?

[Tim_T]

I conceded your point, but you seem to want to argue anyway. Fine by me.

I haven't seen anyone acting like the SEC is the only place where football is played. It's just the best place football is played. Period.

Aside from LSU, Alabama, and Arkansas, Georgia is playing very well lately. Year in and year out you can also expect Florida and Auburn to be top 25 and likely top 5. Miss State, and Ole Miss usually field some good teams too. Vandy would fare better in most any other conference too.

The BCS, and college football in general is certainly flawed, but it's still the biggest amateur sport in the country. I disagree any amateur sport could eclipse pro football, unless the owners' and players' greed puts them on lock out/strike.

I also disagree with you more or less saying college basketball is the shining example. It's not. Every year schools get in the tournament, sometimes because of who they are, while others who deserve to be there wind up in the NIT. For example, UK IMO has probabaly gotten some preferential treatment in the tournament brackets/seedings a time or 2 because of who they are.

BTW, I fell asleep just after the second half started last night, but UK has some serious talent. All that streetball mugging and posing after a good play shows they have long way to go mentally. If you could put Duke players' brains in their bodies, they'd be unbeatable.

Sorry, but I was not arguing, nor was I replying to your post. I was replying to what DJD said. The reason college basketball is the shining example is it is the best system. It is decided on the court, not by some people voting who have never seen many of the teams play.

I don't like thre showboating either. I don't like it when Louisville does it or any other team. That being said, get used toit, that is Cal's style, his teams at Memphis acted like that and he has not changed anything at UK.

[Devils Horse]

Now it sounds like football is alot like hockey in that a team that you would never think would win the Stanley Cup wins. Like the year the Ottawa Senators were the favourite to win and they had been playing great but a team of ducks from California won. It made no sense to me. Every year is different with teams. Some years they do well and some they dont. Its weird like that. I think the coaching staff have alot to do with that. This may be Alabama's year to win in football. Sometimes I wonder if it isnt just plain luck who wins. Now what does SEC mean?

Sorry ma'am. South Eastern Conference. Made up of certain colleges in Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Florida, Kentucky, Mississippi, and Tennessee. Texas A&M has joined the conference also. The SEC is divided into east and west divisions, and depending on in-conference win/loss records, 2 teams may have to play each other for the SEC championship.

Whoever wins the SEC often kicks some other team's hapless azz for the national championship.

Interestingly enough, the potential is there (not likely, but my fingers are crossed) for 2 SEC teams, Alabama and LSU to play in the national championship game. The game's contestants are determined by computer crunched statistics, so If Oklahoma beats Oklahoma State, and I can hack my way into that system it could happen.

Football here is like hockey there. They both cause normally civil grown men to act like idiots. There used to be a pro football league in Canada, but it sorta went out of business. Y'all prolly thought it was a sissy sport, they don't even carry sticks.

There's a pro hockey team not too far from where I live, the Nashville Predators. The games are fun to go to, those guys are great athletes, but where I grew up in Alabama we shut everything down if a single ice crystal forms, so I don't understand the finer points of the game.

[Devils Horse]

Sorry, but I was not arguing, nor was I replying to your post. I was replying to what DJD said. The reason college basketball is the shining example is it is the best system. It is decided on the court, not by some people voting who have never seen many of the teams play.

I don't like thre showboating either. I don't like it when Louisville does it or any other team. That being said, get used toit, that is Cal's style, his teams at Memphis acted like that and he has not changed anything at UK.

Apologies, I didn't mean to hijack your post to DJD. Well truth be told, I did. Your comments were more than I could take.

So in college basketball there is no such thing as tournament at large bids decided by people voting? Certain conferences aren't subjectively granted more slots than others? Tournament invitations and seeding aren't decided by a committee vote?

I thought the football BCS system was based on statistical formulas run through the computer. The intent being to eliminate the old polling system, which when you think about is still in use by college basketball.

Come on now.