No Service to Illegal Aliens

[FlyLie]

YOU ARE KIDDING RIGHT??

Those lands were conquered by the United States. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, RIGHT.

If Mexicans want their "right" to claim Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, California, etc, etc, then pick up a gun and TAKE IT. I will GLADLY pick myself up a gun and SHOOT YOUR ASS while defending MY COUNTRY.

I don't give a RIP that it was once a part of Mexico. Today, it is not. If you cross the border into this country illegally, you're an illegal......PERIOD.

Fly, if you don't like them apples.........move somewhere less oppressive.

Later,

Geo

So, you say, Those lands were conquered by the United States and that somehow makes it ok????

GUESS THAT MAKES IS ALL RIGHT WITH THE SO CALLED CHRISTIAN GOD! SO, IF YOU WANT SOMEONES COUNTRY (THEIR OIL, ETC), OR FOR THAT MATTER YOUR NEIGHBORS (WHATEVER), THEN JUST PICK UP A GUN, OR CALL UP THE ARMY AND GO TO WAR, KILL THEIR ASS AND IT'S YOURS AND THE CHRISTIAN GOD WILL BLESS YOU AND YOU ANCESTORS?

Unfortunatily, that seems to be the way of mankind, doesn't seem to matter who they refer to as their God. But as for me..., as you suggest "move somewhere else less oppressive", no, I'd rather stay here and hope that the day will come when the people of this nation become enlighten/intelligent enought to discard our past associations with bigitory and the so called white supremacy (European) mentally, much less out selfish desires to wage war in order to satisfy our greed!!

As for apples, do enjoy eating them once or twice a week, most refreshing. By the way, I grown my own.

[GeoFisher]

So, you say, Those lands were conquered by the United States and that somehow makes it ok????

GUESS THAT MAKES IS ALL RIGHT WITH THE SO CALLED CHRISTIAN GOD! SO, IF YOU WANT SOMEONES COUNTRY (THEIR OIL, ETC), OR FOR THAT MATTER YOUR NEIGHBORS (WHATEVER), THEN JUST PICK UP A GUN, OR CALL UP THE ARMY AND GO TO WAR, KILL THEIR ASS AND IT'S YOURS AND THE CHRISTIAN GOD WILL BLESS YOU AND YOU ANCESTORS?

Unfortunatily, that seems to be the way of mankind, doesn't seem to matter who they refer to as their God. But as for me..., as you suggest "move somewhere else less oppressive", no, I'd rather stay here and hope that the day will come when the people of this nation become enlighten/intelligent enought to discard our past associations with bigitory and the so called white supremacy (European) mentally, much less out selfish desires to wage war in order to satisfy our greed!!

As for apples, do enjoy eating them once or twice a week, most refreshing. By the way, I grown my own.

Nice try.

1). I said I'd pick up a gun and PROTECT my homeland, not invade another. BIG DIFFERENCE.

2). When was the last time the United States Expanded, or took lands??

3). Nice that you have such disdain for ignorant, unintelligent, bigoted Americans.

Later,

Geo

[DJD]

Not to confuse the issue as it relates to illegal's cashing in on the dollars associated with social programs (another issue entirely), but to the point of "who is an illegal alien".

If my history is anywhere close to being correct, I believe at one time what is today identified as Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and California were at one time the territories of Mexico/Spain. And oh, not to mention the Native Peoples of America!!!!!!!.

Then immigrants from Europe,who had previously settled on the east cost, decided they wanted those same territories, so what did they do,...move in,....fight a few battles,....wars..., and established themselves as the rightful landholders of those territories.

No longer were they considered illegals, but the true and governing citizens of the territories. Now, to this day, any mexican who crosses the border other than through US legal processes via US customs is considered an illegal.

Interesting how the human genius changes it definition of things depending on time and circumstances, and who is doing what to who. But if you look a bit deeper, that has and continues to be the way of mankind!! Reference, Cain and Able in the Hebrew scriptures.

For reference, my lineage goes back to English/Scott/Irish immigrants.

Well I haven't read about Cain and Able for years but the rest of your comments had me looking like this...your open minded thats for sure but be careful cause when it gets this open your brain will fall out.

Man you went from A to Z without stopping to accept the fact that there are laws in place (sure they don't enforce them worth a squat) but laws none the less. Yes this seems ironic i'll give you that.....maybe Santa Anna should have been better at fighting wars??

Maybe the Mexican people should have fought for their own freedoms through the years?? Naw wait a minute..our Attorney General (Holder) tried to help the people of mexico with operation "fast and furious"..nope check that, he was helping the drug cartels my bad..Come on man.... put the woodford down.

[kyfanatic]

[QUOTE=Tim_T;472956]

I have no problem with legal immigration from any nationality,but all our Latino neighbors to the south pouring across the sanctity of our border illegally,taxing our public services,jails,schools,Hospitals,and welfare systems needs to be stopped.Unemployment figures do not show those that have run out of benefits or have given up on finding a job,meanwhile these illegals keep taking jobs and our tax dollars away from legal American Citizens.
How fast do you think Obama's Trillion Dollar spending would get paid off with all that extra cash?
In that aspect I have Nary a problem with Alabama or George Wallace.
All this politically correct sensitivity BS has ruined this country.Man Up,be Law Abiding,or get out.[/QUOTE

His comment had nothing to do with illegals, it had to do with Mexicans in general. If you are okay with that, then I have a suggestion. I will give you directions to where I live. I have a next door neighbor who's parents came her LEGALLY from Mexico and he was born here. Why don't you come over and make some of those witty comments to him? Make sure I am home because I want to watch the azz whippin he gives you when you say it!

This is not about pollitical correctness, it is about treating another human being with the respect you would expect to be treated with.

Reading Comprehension couldbe your friend,obviously you haven't been sober long enough to differentiate between LEGAL IMMIGRANTS and ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS,big difference.
Oh and bad back and all,I'm not scared of your big ,bad,Mexican neighbor.
I have news for you,I was hiring Legal Mexican Immigrants to work for my construction company when you were still playing recess in school.I can tell you plenty of the tricks they use to abuse our system and get around illegally in this country from having several very good friends that happen to be Mexican,if you want you can call them and ask them about my KKK membership.

I'm willing to bet that I've spent more time in Mexico,Belize,Guatemala,Honduras,Panama,and Costa Rico than anybody on this forum,go to my facebook page and look at my photo albums.
Then come up to UC's Medical Science Building where i'm working and ask the Hispanics there how I treat them,they talk to me more than anybody because I know their language and customs.

[Tim_T]

[QUOTE=kyfanatic;472971]

Reading Comprehension couldbe your friend,obviously you haven't been sober long enough to differentiate between LEGAL IMMIGRANTS and ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS,big difference.
Oh and bad back and all,I'm not scared of your big ,bad,Mexican neighbor.
I have news for you,I was hiring Legal Mexican Immigrants to work for my construction company when you were still playing recess in school.I can tell you plenty of the tricks they use to abuse our system and get around illegally in this country from having several very good friends that happen to be Mexican,if you want you can call them and ask them about my KKK membership.

I'm willing to bet that I've spent more time in Mexico,Belize,Guatemala,Honduras,Panama,and Costa Rico than anybody on this forum,go to my facebook page and look at my photo albums.
Then come up to UC's Medical Science Building where i'm working and ask the Hispanics there how I treat them,they talk to me more than anybody because I know their language and customs.

The whole point was Bugs friend was not just talking about illegalls, methinks it is you with the reading comprehension problem. You actually defended him saying it in the post, their is no misunderstanding about what he said and yet you were defending it because some people come here illegally. It's not hard for honest, clear thinking individuals to figure out that was a racist comment. Then you try to defend it and yourself with the old standby that racist have used for years, "I have a (black, hispanic, Jewish, homosexual) friend."

As for my neighbor, he probably has better things to do with his time than mess with an old bitter individual like you. Get your back healed up, get in shape and try a rematch with your neighbor who kicked your azz!

[kyfanatic]

[QUOTE=Tim_T;472990]

The whole point was Bugs friend was not just talking about illegalls, methinks it is you with the reading comprehension problem. You actually defended him saying it in the post, their is no misunderstanding about what he said and yet you were defending it because some people come here illegally. It's not hard for honest, clear thinking individuals to figure out that was a racist comment. Then you try to defend it and yourself with the old standby that racist have used for years, "I have a (black, hispanic, Jewish, homosexual) friend."

As for my neighbor, he probably has better things to do with his time than mess with an old bitter individual like you. Get your back healed up, get in shape and try a rematch with your neighbor who kicked your azz!

Sounds to me like you need a drink.

[bassin_bug]

[QUOTE=Tim_T;472956]

I have no problem with legal immigration from any nationality,but all our Latino neighbors to the south pouring across the sanctity of our border illegally,taxing our public services,jails,schools,Hospitals,and welfare systems needs to be stopped.Unemployment figures do not show those that have run out of benefits or have given up on finding a job,meanwhile these illegals keep taking jobs and our tax dollars away from legal American Citizens.
How fast do you think Obama's Trillion Dollar spending would get paid off with all that extra cash?
In that aspect I have Nary a problem with Alabama or George Wallace.
All this politically correct sensitivity BS has ruined this country.Man Up,be Law Abiding,or get out.[/QUOTE

His comment had nothing to do with illegals, it had to do with Mexicans in general. If you are okay with that, then I have a suggestion. I will give you directions to where I live. I have a next door neighbor who's parents came her LEGALLY from Mexico and he was born here. Why don't you come over and make some of those witty comments to him? Make sure I am home because I want to watch the azz whippin he gives you when you say it!

This is not about pollitical correctness, it is about treating another human being with the respect you would expect to be treated with.

Someone is wrong about my friend's comment. My thread was about illegal aliens and my friend's comment was completely about illegal Mexicans. Someone has turned it into Mexicans in general. My friend was talking about ILLEGALS. He never referred to the KKK or "George Wallace's Alabama"....WHATEVER THE HECK WAS MEANT BY THAT. George Wallace was simply governor of Alabama, first elected in 1962 and his last term ended in 1987. He has been dead since September 19, 1998, eleven years after he served as governor. How can it be his state when it never was? Alabama was never his state, it belonged to all of us. George Wallace renounced segregation before he died. Alabama is always singled out as being a KKK controlled racist state but almost every state in the USA has had or now has racial problems.

A new hospital is being built here and will open in February 2012. The local people both blacks and whites weren't hired because the contractor, from Louisiana, was hauling illegal Mexicans in and they got all the jobs. Very few locals were able to find work. Now I hope it's easier to understand why the Chief Detective whispered that comment to me. The contractor had to take his illegals and haul @ss back to where they came from when the law was passed. It went into effect immediately.

Racism is alive and well in Alabama and Mississippi and it's not the whites who are the problem. If you walk into a grocery store in this town and your cashier is black, you can expect to bag your own groceries, and load them into the shopping cart. When you walk up to the counter in either Church's Chicken or McDonald's, the black cashiers make the whites wait until they have served all the blacks that are in line.

I had two incidents of racism from blacks when I tried to pay my property taxes. One black told me she wouldn't change the address on my account unless I produced the deed to my property, plus my husband's driver license. I inherited both of those estates and the deeds are in my name only. I asked her how she thought I could do that when he was in another state and always carried his license with him. She told me to step aside and let her serve the other 4 (blacks) in line behind me. She was holding in her hand the bill she sent to me with the correct address on it but was trying to use my old address. She said there was no use in me going to the Assessors office because they were behind a year on their recordings. I then went to the court records dept. to get a copy of my deed and had to deal with another black. She said she wouldn't give it to me unless I gave her the book and page number. All the records are in alphabetical order in books and all she had to do was look up my name. She looked up a record for a black man in line behind me. I got fed up and went to the Assessor's office and told them the black woman in the Tax Collectors office said they were behind a year on their recordings and I couldn't get my address changed for at least another year. That time I was talking to a white woman; she went ballistics. She typed my name into the computer and all my records were in order and had been recorded since I first carried my deeds in 3 years ago. Then she called the first black person where I tried to pay my taxes and told her their records were in order and to issue me a refund, that she had overcharged me by $53 for last year's taxes. I'm sorry this post is so long but felt that I needed to better explain a few things.

[jcb]

[QUOTE=bassin_bug;472993]

Racism is alive and well in Alabama and Mississippi and it's not the whites who are the problem. If you walk into a grocery store in this town and your cashier is black, you can expect to bag your own groceries, and load them into the shopping cart. When you walk up to the counter in either Church's Chicken or McDonald's, the black cashiers make the whites wait until they have served all the blacks that are in line.

I know AL and MS quite well, and it is BOTH blacks and whites that are the problem. To say it's just blacks is incredibly narrow sighted.

[bassin_bug]

[QUOTE=jcb;473007]

I know AL and MS quite well, and it is BOTH blacks and whites that are the problem. To say it's just blacks is incredibly narrow sighted.

To "know" AL and MS 'quite well,' is rather interesting, to say the least, since you don't live here. How well do you REALLY know the people in these states? If you drive a truck across the state, come to visit your in-laws once a year, or come on vacation, or get your info from newspapers, you don't know half the story.

I don't know if you are black or white, if you are married to a black or white, and I don't give a happy rotten rat's butt if you have a house full of kids that are mullatto. I'm not narrow sighted, I SEE what is happening in my town and THAT IS THE PEOPLE I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

[jcb]

[QUOTE=bassin_bug;473022]

To "know" AL and MS 'quite well,' is rather interesting, to say the least, since you don't live here. How well do you REALLY know the people in these states? If you drive a truck across the state, come to visit your in-laws once a year, or come on vacation, or get your info from newspapers, you don't know half the story.

I don't know if you are black or white, if you are married to a black or white, and I don't give a happy rotten rat's butt if you have a house full of kids that are mullatto. I'm not narrow sighted, I SEE what is happening in my town and THAT IS THE PEOPLE I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

I know the folks in those two states "quite well", is the best way I can put it. One in AL, a banker, who told me about talking with a county official once who was asked why there were fewer black folks in his county than surrounding counties. His answer: "cause we don't want 'em here". The other, a family member in MS who bragged to me once that he charged black folks up to twice what he charged white folks for the same work, and then went on about how stupid they were not to figure it out.

Bug, I don't know you or the people around you. I do know that your statement "racism is alive and well in AL and whites are not the problem" is, on its face, ridiculous. As I said, there is racism on both sides.

I will say, though, that if you're a white victim of racism in AL or MS you might have to bag your own groceries or wait a little longer to get your 3-piece chicken snack with red beans and rice, as you said. If you're a black victim of racism, you might spend a few years longer in jail, lose a couple thousand bucks to a repairman, or get a cross burned in your front yard.

[jcb]

I will also say, there's no reason to single out AL and MS on this topic. I've met some of the sweetest people I know down there. There's plenty of good old down home racism alive and well here in KY.

[bassin_bug]

[QUOTE=jcb;473024]

I know the folks in those two states "quite well", is the best way I can put it. One in AL, a banker, who told me about talking with a county official once who was asked why there were fewer black folks in his county than surrounding counties. His answer: "cause we don't want 'em here". The other, a family member in MS who bragged to me once that he charged black folks up to twice what he charged white folks for the same work, and then went on about how stupid they were not to figure it out.

Bug, I don't know you or the people around you. I do know that your statement "racism is alive and well in AL and whites are not the problem" is, on its face, ridiculous. As I said, there is racism on both sides.

I will say, though, that if you're a white victim of racism in AL or MS you might have to bag your own groceries or wait a little longer to get your 3-piece chicken snack with red beans and rice, as you said. If you're a black victim of racism, you might spend a few years longer in jail, lose a couple thousand bucks to a repairman, or get a cross burned in your front yard.

You know TWO people, one in AL and one in MS but their comments don't do much but tell a few lies or show what a lowlife they are for being dishonest. You need to stop watching old movies from the 1960s about southern racism and Martin Luther King. Racism occurred in other states outside the south during the same time frame. We don't live in those days, they are finished and behind us. If you knew anything about our laws, you would know the penalty for cross burning isn't a mere slap on the hand; it's almost as bad as a homicide. There are also laws against price gouging and all the victim has to do is report it. The first thing is to KNOW in advance what a repair job will cost him and if he doesn't like the price, just say "no" and walk away. Don't let the repairman gouge him and then piss and moan about it. Frankly, your comment about cross burning is a lot of BS. You need to pull your head out of your butt and enlighten yourself.