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    Re: No Service to Illegal Aliens

    Not to confuse the issue as it relates to illegal's cashing in on the dollars associated with social programs (another issue entirely), but to the point of "who is an illegal alien".

    If my history is anywhere close to being correct, I believe at one time what is today identified as Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and California were at one time the territories of Mexico/Spain. And oh, not to mention the Native Peoples of America!!!!!!!.

    Then immigrants from Europe,who had previously settled on the east cost, decided they wanted those same territories, so what did they do,...move in,....fight a few battles,....wars..., and established themselves as the rightful landholders of those territories.

    No longer were they considered illegals, but the true and governing citizens of the territories. Now, to this day, any mexican who crosses the border other than through US legal processes via US customs is considered an illegal.

    Interesting how the human genius changes it definition of things depending on time and circumstances, and who is doing what to who. But if you look a bit deeper, that has and continues to be the way of mankind!! Reference, Cain and Able in the Hebrew scriptures.

    For reference, my lineage goes back to English/Scott/Irish immigrants.
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    Re: No Service to Illegal Aliens

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyLie View Post
    Not to confuse the issue as it relates to illegal's cashing in on the dollars associated with social programs (another issue entirely), but to the point of "who is an illegal alien".

    If my history is anywhere close to being correct, I believe at one time what is today identified as Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and California were at one time the territories of Mexico/Spain.

    Then immigrants from Europe,who had previously settled on the east cost, decided they wanted those same territories, so what did they do,...move in,....fight a few battles,....wars..., and established themselves as the rightful landholders of those territories.

    No longer were they considered illegals, but the true and governing citizens of the territories. Now, to this day, any mexican who crosses the border other than through US legal processes via US customs is considered an illegal.

    Interesting how the human genius changes it definition of things depending on time and circumstances, and who is doing what to who. But if you look a bit deeper, that has and continues to be the way of mankind!! Reference, Cain and Able in the Hebrew scriptures.

    For reference, my lineage goes back to English/Scott/Irish immigrants.
    YOU ARE KIDDING RIGHT??

    Those lands were conquered by the United States. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, RIGHT.

    If Mexicans want their "right" to claim Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, California, etc, etc, then pick up a gun and TAKE IT. I will GLADLY pick myself up a gun and SHOOT YOUR ASS while defending MY COUNTRY.

    I don't give a RIP that it was once a part of Mexico. Today, it is not. If you cross the border into this country illegally, you're an illegal......PERIOD.

    Fly, if you don't like them apples.........move somewhere less oppressive.

    Later,

    Geo

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    Re: No Service to Illegal Aliens

    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    YOU ARE KIDDING RIGHT??

    Those lands were conquered by the United States. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, RIGHT.

    If Mexicans want their "right" to claim Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, California, etc, etc, then pick up a gun and TAKE IT. I will GLADLY pick myself up a gun and SHOOT YOUR ASS while defending MY COUNTRY.

    I don't give a RIP that it was once a part of Mexico. Today, it is not. If you cross the border into this country illegally, you're an illegal......PERIOD.

    Fly, if you don't like them apples.........move somewhere less oppressive.

    Later,

    Geo
    So, you say, Those lands were conquered by the United States and that somehow makes it ok????

    GUESS THAT MAKES IS ALL RIGHT WITH THE SO CALLED CHRISTIAN GOD! SO, IF YOU WANT SOMEONES COUNTRY (THEIR OIL, ETC), OR FOR THAT MATTER YOUR NEIGHBORS (WHATEVER), THEN JUST PICK UP A GUN, OR CALL UP THE ARMY AND GO TO WAR, KILL THEIR ASS AND IT'S YOURS AND THE CHRISTIAN GOD WILL BLESS YOU AND YOU ANCESTORS?

    Unfortunatily, that seems to be the way of mankind, doesn't seem to matter who they refer to as their God. But as for me..., as you suggest "move somewhere else less oppressive", no, I'd rather stay here and hope that the day will come when the people of this nation become enlighten/intelligent enought to discard our past associations with bigitory and the so called white supremacy (European) mentally, much less out selfish desires to wage war in order to satisfy our greed!!

    As for apples, do enjoy eating them once or twice a week, most refreshing. By the way, I grown my own.
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    Re: No Service to Illegal Aliens

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyLie View Post
    So, you say, Those lands were conquered by the United States and that somehow makes it ok????

    GUESS THAT MAKES IS ALL RIGHT WITH THE SO CALLED CHRISTIAN GOD! SO, IF YOU WANT SOMEONES COUNTRY (THEIR OIL, ETC), OR FOR THAT MATTER YOUR NEIGHBORS (WHATEVER), THEN JUST PICK UP A GUN, OR CALL UP THE ARMY AND GO TO WAR, KILL THEIR ASS AND IT'S YOURS AND THE CHRISTIAN GOD WILL BLESS YOU AND YOU ANCESTORS?

    Unfortunatily, that seems to be the way of mankind, doesn't seem to matter who they refer to as their God. But as for me..., as you suggest "move somewhere else less oppressive", no, I'd rather stay here and hope that the day will come when the people of this nation become enlighten/intelligent enought to discard our past associations with bigitory and the so called white supremacy (European) mentally, much less out selfish desires to wage war in order to satisfy our greed!!

    As for apples, do enjoy eating them once or twice a week, most refreshing. By the way, I grown my own.
    Nice try.

    1). I said I'd pick up a gun and PROTECT my homeland, not invade another. BIG DIFFERENCE.

    2). When was the last time the United States Expanded, or took lands??

    3). Nice that you have such disdain for ignorant, unintelligent, bigoted Americans.

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    Re: No Service to Illegal Aliens

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyLie View Post
    Not to confuse the issue as it relates to illegal's cashing in on the dollars associated with social programs (another issue entirely), but to the point of "who is an illegal alien".

    If my history is anywhere close to being correct, I believe at one time what is today identified as Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and California were at one time the territories of Mexico/Spain. And oh, not to mention the Native Peoples of America!!!!!!!.

    Then immigrants from Europe,who had previously settled on the east cost, decided they wanted those same territories, so what did they do,...move in,....fight a few battles,....wars..., and established themselves as the rightful landholders of those territories.

    No longer were they considered illegals, but the true and governing citizens of the territories. Now, to this day, any mexican who crosses the border other than through US legal processes via US customs is considered an illegal.

    Interesting how the human genius changes it definition of things depending on time and circumstances, and who is doing what to who. But if you look a bit deeper, that has and continues to be the way of mankind!! Reference, Cain and Able in the Hebrew scriptures.

    For reference, my lineage goes back to English/Scott/Irish immigrants.
    Well I haven't read about Cain and Able for years but the rest of your comments had me looking like this...your open minded thats for sure but be careful cause when it gets this open your brain will fall out.

    Man you went from A to Z without stopping to accept the fact that there are laws in place (sure they don't enforce them worth a squat) but laws none the less. Yes this seems ironic i'll give you that.....maybe Santa Anna should have been better at fighting wars??

    Maybe the Mexican people should have fought for their own freedoms through the years?? Naw wait a minute..our Attorney General (Holder) tried to help the people of mexico with operation "fast and furious"..nope check that, he was helping the drug cartels my bad..Come on man.... put the woodford down.

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