Thanks. I am in need of an upgrade but just bcan't bring myself to pay under armor prices. Some of the other stuff is pretty high too. I'll check them out.
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Today I decided to try out some new long johns to see how well they keep me dry when I sweat. It was warm today but the humidity was around 100% so any sweat that I produced was not going to evaporate very fast. I figured it was a good day for DUCKS.
So I put on these tops and bottoms and wore some synthetic socks and drove over to the hardware store and went for a power walk. After walking up and down each and every ail I noticed that I was dry and not feeling any sweat at all.
These are compression fit style similar to the UnderArmor type long johns but not nearly as expensive. These sell for about 17 to 20 for a top and about the same price for the bottoms.
I like them better than the Rockeys that I've been trying out. I have two types of the Rockey Long Johns from Walmart. But the heavy duty Rockey for cold weather and low activity still feels clammy on my when I wear them. And the lighter type from Rockey Midweight made me feel a bit cooler than I liked.
With each set of long johns the air temperature was between 50 and 60 deg. When I wore and tried out the Rockeys the humidy was not so high and I felt wet and a little chilly with them.
I'll have to try all three sets a few more times after it gets colder outside and it's not so humid and see which ones I like best.
But I think that right now I perfer the one's from Target. I've never really shopped that much at Target but I read a few reviews about their sportwear clothing and that's how I found out about these Champion long johns and their mid level shirts and pants. I may get a pair of the midlevel training pants for walking outside. You wear these midlevel shirts and pants over the base layers long johns to help wick away any sweat or moisture from your skin.
These are all made with polypropylene fibers and some spandix material is used in the Champion brand.
Cotton is said to get wet when you sweat and once it's wet it loses it insulation properties. It has to have air trapped inside the fibers before it will keep you warm and once cotton gets wet it can't retain the air bubbles and you get cold and wet.
What you don't want is sweat soaking into the cloth next to your skin as that makes you feel colder according to everything I'm reading these days.
So if you are planning on going fishing this winter it might help to go with these man made type fibers in the base layers that you wear on the lake.
Thanks. I am in need of an upgrade but just bcan't bring myself to pay under armor prices. Some of the other stuff is pretty high too. I'll check them out.
Thanks
i think i will have my wife pick me up some on black friday, im going fishing she can shop
I think that If I got another pair of long pants I would get the XXL instead of the XL as they are a bit small in the butt part. And the tops are a bit short as well. So the XL is hard to keep tucked into the bottoms. They are made to fit tight I guess. But I prefer a more loose fitting style myself. I normally wear XL tops and pants so these are made a little small IMHO. Just so you know.
Here's what I did with them. Wore them under my blue jeans and a mid weigth top from Target and then put on a Frogg Toggs Toadz Skin Rain Jacket over that. I walked around in Home Depot for 30 minutes at a quick pace in order to work up a sweat. It was easily 70 deg F inside Home Depot. I didn't feel any wetness at the end of my walk.
Then today I went for another 3o minute walk at Lowes with about the same indoor temperature and with lower humidity. This time I wore a cotton undershirt "T SHIRT" under the same mid weight shirt (from Target and Champion Brand name) with the same Frogg Toggs Toadz Skin Rain Jacket. I was noticible wet and my Cotton T shirt was so wet that when I got home I had to throw it in the drier and use a hair dryer to dry off.
Now granted it was warm inside these stores but what I was checking for is the way these fabrics wick the moisture (sweat away).
IMHO the Champion Base Layer and mid layer shirt work and kept me drier. A lot drier than the Rockey Underwear did.
If I had to choose between the two for active wear I'd pick the Champion over the Rockey. Now I have two sets of Rockey Long Johns and one set of the Champions from Target.
I'm like Peter and just can't justify paying 70 bucks just for a Underarmor top and the same for a pair of long pants from Underarmor.
I've also worn some older type Blue Long Johns that I got somewhere a few years back. These are made out of polypropyle as well. They work pretty good too. But they are not the stretch fabric like the Champions I just bought.
I did a web search for "moisture wicking underwear" or something to that affect and that's how I learned about the ones at Target. I normally never go to Target at all so this was a new store for me.
There's nothing as bad as being out in the cold weather and being soaking wet and freezing while trying to fish or hunt in the cold weather.
In the past I tried electric socks that ran on D size Batteries and all sorts of hand warmers that run on lighter fluid. The electric socks didn't work.
But I found that wearing some thin socks made out of polypropylene and then wear some wool socks or thicker synthetic socks over the thin ones helps to keep my feet warmer and drier. The secret in in the thin socks wicking the sweat away from the feet into the outer socks where it can evaporte away. Also it helps to wear some insulated boots. I like the Thinsulate type Insulation for my boots and outerwear.
I've got a a set of Outerwear that consists of some bibs and a parka that was a Field and Stream Brand. The Parka has a zip in liner that's got thinsulate inside it but it retains the sweat and gets very wet. So I would stay away from the Field and Stream Outerwear that was sold at DicksSporting Goods store a few years ago. I'd like to return them but I know that I can't. So now I wear the outerjacket without the liner and that's better as the outer Parka doesn't hold the sweat like the zip in liner does. Even if I wear the zip in liner by itself it still retains the sweat a lot and that's not good.
I get some sweat inside the Frogg Toggs when I didn't wear the Champion long johns underneath. But the Frogg Toggs dry out faster than other materials. So did the Champion Mid Layer shirt as it's made out of synthetic fibers or man made fibers. I think it's made out of polypropylene plastic fibers too. Plastic fibers will not hold water and is in fact hydroscopic. They repell moisture unlike cotton which retains moisture.
