I always tie them on about 4-5 ft. on a spinning reel. If a casting I tie it so that when I am pitching the knot is just out side of top eyelet from where I normally have the bait when pitching. Which for me is about 3-4 turns up from my reel which just feels more natural for me.
When pitching, the knot coming through the eyelet sometimes messes you up so I try to keep it out of there.




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