If we allow this is down riggers and trolling next ? Single lure per pole rule .
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If we allow this is down riggers and trolling next ? Single lure per pole rule .
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Ok. Here we go. As long as the bait, lure, or method is not illegal, it can be used by anyone (tournaments or just fishing). Now the way I see it is, if it's not been banned and it catches 'em that good and one still fishes the tourney, then there is NO way that one can complain because everyone has the same opportunities. Either learn how and then throw it or get beat by it. The Alabama rig is not the just throw it out and you can fill the boat bait that many have portrayed it to be. I've thrown it MANY more times without a hit than with getting bit. Grant it, I have, along with my fishing partner have caught 'em pretty good on it.
I remember a few years ago people were raising a stink about the FNF rod length rule in tourneys. While I never fished any tourneys in the winter when the FNF bite is on you can bet if I did fish one, I would try it because I KNOW what it can do. I've had days on Cumberland with the FNF with my 5 best weighing 24 plus poounds. I remember when 7'11" flippin sticks were fussed about as well, because some would not try it they persecuted those who did flip with heavy line, heavy cover, and big baits catching BIG fish.
It's just another fishing technique that produces, another one will come along, and then another. I love learning new ways of catching them and have over the years. Some I've mastered and others I've long since given up on them. I feel it makes you a more consistent fisherman.
Good fishing, God Bless, and to each his own
Tim
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With out going thru all the other alabama rig posts. Im just wondering if the minnow head jig is pretty much the standard rig? Does anybody rig them with out the swim head?
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Hey Stoner,Originally Posted by stoner
The minnow head jig is the one used most, however I wouldn't rule out just a swimbait hook on it especially if when the fish are shallower. The weight of the lures and the rig will get it down some, the heavier the jig head the better you can work it in deeper water. Hope this helps and it's just my theory.
Tim
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[QUOTE=bassmaster;476550]Hey Stoner,
The minnow head jig is the one used most, however I wouldn't rule out just a swimbait hook on it especially if when the fish are shallower. The weight of the lures and the rig will get it down some, the heavier the jig head the better you can work it in deeper water. Hope this helps and it's just my theory.
Tim[/QUOT
Thanks Tim
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Renegade is not the only one to band it and they do sell them if we let people use it then we should let them troll or use more then one rod at a time ronnie
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I have noticed that the people "crying" the most for the banning of this lure are guys that run these weekend "open" tournaments. Maybe you guys have some underlying motive, like somebody coming down to your lake and taking you and your "buddies" money? If you don't want to put the time in to learn a new technique, just ban it, that makes sense. Let's ban the "Donkey" rig too (the one with multiple soft jerkbaits joined by swivels). I have seen guys hurling those things out there with three or four jerkbaits on one rod...can't have that. Unfair advantage.
Come on guys. As has already been said, it is just another tool. Just like the swimbait explosion, the drop-shot rig, and all other "revolutions" in the fishing industry, the alabama rig has its place. It has solved one of life's great mysteries, how to catch suspended fish in the fall. Why ban it?
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Welcome to come to Green anytime if you think it is that easy.No A-rig in my boat! I think you are a bit out line saying that the tournament directors are making these rules for there personal gain.The A-rig will have it's place but is not the cure for ever ones livewell to be full.If circuits ban it or modify the set up it is what it is,there circuit there rules.Oh if you do come to green to fish you may want a boat load of a-rigs for them toothy critters that swim there they are going to love them.
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I think you missed the point...and proved my point all in one post, Clark.
Didn't say it was a cure for everyone's livewell to be full. Since you haven't used it (No A-rig in my boat), I can only assume you are hypothesizing about its effectiveness on Green. I have used it on Green, caught some very nice smallmouth, and some very hefty spots. Have caught multiple fish on one cast. No muskie yet, although I am sure if you throw one long enough, it is bound to happen. Hey, muskie are called the fish of a thousand casts...maybe the A-rig can help the muskie fishermen.
Its effectiveness for catching suspended bass in the fall is well documented (see flwoutdoors.com, or many of the posts concerning ky lake in the last three months). Will it outfish other lures in the spring?? Who knows. Will it be the best lure for bedding fish?? Highly doubt it. What about post-spawn, or deep summer ledges?? Who knows. My point is, why even open a thread calling for a "ban" in tournament fishing. To ban it after being available only a few months seems a bit of a knee-jerk reaction to a new method that has yet to be fully appreciated or understood.
As for tournament directors banning use, or allowing use, or restricting use, or modifying rules, you are correct. That is the way is has always been, their circuit, their rules. Rules, as history will prove, are typically created due to the voices of a "select" few, one could agree or disagree. My comment was just a simple observation about who is saying what is all.
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Bottom line is...the A-rig is legal to throw in Kentucky...Whether Open tourney on Rough or Green River Bass Club tourneys, USA Bassin, Renegade tourneys, or any other circuit that has tourney on lakes which always have "locals" fishing them actually ban this thing there will be an appearance of the "locals" tourney rules being set to help prevent the "non-locals" from winning any money. I can honestly say that I know lots of "nonlocals" that have won WITHOUT the A-rig so maybe it's not the bait that day!! On the legality I think it's the tourney club members call (not the director) in CLUB situations. However, if somebody has an open(such as Roughscott) he can have any rule he wants to have as long as it's within the state rules and regulations.
With that being said, the A-rig is here for a fishing tool, like it or not. I really think that there is alot more to fishing it than folks think. Just throw it and you will catch 'em every cast even 5 at a time!! Location.Location. Location. Presentation. Presentation. Presentation.....just like any other lure. I really don't think the bait works that well....so maybe everyone but me should quit throwing it especially in tourneys that I'm fishing in..LOL.So, IF I take you guys money any next year, just think...he might have caught them on a A-rig....or he might not have...
(Oh by the way, the BIG bass like it at Green too!)
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Thank you...my point was understood by at least one. If "local" tournament directors decide to "ban" a lure, a presentation, a location on a lake that is not regulated by law, it seems a bit questionable, and not based on anything other than ones opinion or personal preference. But it is their right as tournament director, as they put in the time to run the tournament, so they can make whatever rule they wish. The thread had nothing to do with the work ethics or the time put in by tournament directors. Again, just making a general observation about threads that are thrown out there, and who makes what comments on those threads.
As for roughscotts tournaments, I believe we all know to leave the A-rig at the house.
Bottom line is...the A-rig is legal to throw in Kentucky...Whether Open tourney on Rough or Green River Bass Club tourneys, USA Bassin, Renegade tourneys, or any other circuit that has tourney on lakes which always have "locals" fishing them actually ban this thing there will be an appearance of the "locals" tourney rules being set to help prevent the "non-locals" from winning any money. I can honestly say that I know lots of "nonlocals" that have won WITHOUT the A-rig so maybe it's not the bait that day!! On the legality I think it's the tourney club members call (not the director) in CLUB situations. However, if somebody has an open(such as Roughscott) he can have any rule he wants to have as long as it's within the state rules and regulations.
With that being said, the A-rig is here for a fishing tool, like it or not. I really think that there is alot more to fishing it than folks think. Just throw it and you will catch 'em every cast even 5 at a time!! Location.Location. Location. Presentation. Presentation. Presentation.....just like any other lure. I really don't think the bait works that well....so maybe everyone but me should quit throwing it especially in tourneys that I'm fishing in..LOL.
(Oh by the way, the BIG bass like it at Green too!)
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Tend to agree even if legal to use or not many people have an opinion about the lure and its usage and may also be a T director their T,their rules even if we you or I dont like it.
I dont agree with Tn saying a teaser is a lure and spinnerbait blade is a teaser,just have to obey.
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