Am i the only on who dislikes Fluorocarbon ?

[sweetwater]

folks am i missing something here? the knot breaks at the hook when used as mainline....but the knot DOESNT break at the hook when using it as a leader? seriously im not being a "$M@RT@$$ here, i just dont get it. and yes i understand the relationship between mono stretch / shock leader etc. BUT its still a knot tied to a hook (or the eye of a lure) PLUS an additional knot splicing the mono to the flouro.
fill me in, im always looking for info that can help me improve, I NEED IT BAD !

It will tend to break at the knot because fluoro is a harder material than mono. Being harder means it is brittle and using knots that have very tight kinks and turns will weaken the fluoro and thereby make it break easier. San Diego jam for fluoro to hook connections and bloodknot or seagar knot for mono/fluoro connections. Bloodknot is easier. Using a heavier fluoro leader than the mainline will help take full advantage of fluoros good qualities. If you like to use a c-rig or a dropshot rig you can't beat the mono main to fluoro setup.

[publican57]

I like trilene 100% fluorocarbon. I have had trouble with palomar knots and use an improved clinch knot which I find works better.

[Netboy Extraordinaire]

Love it and except for topwater, use it on everything. BPS XPS is what I believe is the best after trying several but will say Viscous is a close second due to the cost

[stripernut]

8 stripers this afternoon on a carrot stik, pfleuger president spinning reel and 8lb test P-Line flouro, no breakoffs, no knot failure (palomar knot)

just my opinion;
good knot properly moistened + drag set properly + correct rod for the application + correct line size for the application = no problems

i wouldnt give up on flouro just yet, alot of good suggestions / ideas posted here....try em and see what works for you. keep in mind if youre breaking fish off at least you are doing something right....YOURE GETTING BIT

[R19]

I am sure that under certain situations that floro carbon is better than mono. As for me I have no intentions of buying any more. I tried Invizex,Triline floro clear,XPS,P line,Gamma,Yozuri and probably a couple more that I can't remember. My problem was breaking on a hookset when fishing a T-rig or jig. I tried palymor,clinch,improved clinch,san diego and improved san diego and still had knot breakage problems...and yes I made sure to wet the line before I cinched it down. My experimentation with floro was over a 3-4 year period before I decided to stop spending my money on something that lost me fish on several ocassions.

What few times I used floro on moving baits such as crank baits or spinner baits, knot breakage was not very often. However when pitching or flipping I broke off very often. I think the reason for such high knot breakage in my case is due to the fact that I have a very hard hookset,espically when fishing a bait on tight line in shallow water. I even tried to back off on the hookset but that is a mental challenge that I could not overcome. For 20 plus years I have always swung for the fence with mono, so it is not easy to just up and change my hookset.

I have always used Berkley Triline Big Game mono and plan on staying with it. Big Game is highly abrasion resistant and has the least amount of stretch of any mono line. Price is very good compared to other mono line but, I do not buy it because it is a good value. I use Big Game because it rarely breaks and is tough as nails. My only complaint is it has a lot of memory and can be stiff in cold weather conditions. I just wish I had all the money and lost fish that floro cost me...I am sure people swear buy floro line but not me.

[kyjake]

Fluorocarbon doesn't have a place in my fishing gear.It's stiffer and harder to handle than mono and I don't believe that the supposed less viability is a valid reason to use it.Are we to believe that the piece of highly visible piece of plastic,wood or lead that we use for lures that fish think are something to eat but are dangerous if they see a line attached?I come from a time before mono when fishermen had a choice of black,gray or green line with the lure tied directly to it but don't think there was a great or any difference in the amount of strikes when we went to clear mono.
Planning a trip to Florida this spring where I will be fishing crystal clear shallow water for pompano.My normal rig is 30 lb. braid with a 10 lb. mono leader but will set one outfit up with the lure tied directly to the braid to see if there is a difference in the amount of hits.
Jake

[stripernut]

Everyone seems to be going to this line and having success with it so i have tried a few different brands and i must say i am not impressed.Granted i do like the low visibility,Sinking,and sensitivity .But I have had more break offs,Knot's while casting than i can count.I am a firm believer in using line conditioner on my lines especially the Fluorocarbon.


I tie primarily the Palomar knot,Improved cinch and and make sure the line is wet when cinching down .So what is the problem here.so far the brands i have tried are

Streen 100% fluorocarbon
Vicious 100%
Spiderwire ultracast

So far the only lines i have the best confidence in is Pline Cx premium and Suffix pro mix,Both are crazy strong and cast a mile while laying smooth .

And i just do not have any confidence in it so far.Primarily i use Fluorocarbon on spinning reels for finesse fishing in ultra clear water

hahaha....there you go, it should be as clear as mud now. as you can see personal preferences vary greatly, some love it, some hate it. its simple...if the stuff keeps breaking for you dont use it, dont force something just because other people like it or dont like it

[bigjc]

I use BPS floro, for situations that call for flouro, and braid when I need it, but for me, my bread and butter is co-polymer. If you find a good co-polymer, your almost never use mono. My preferred line for most of my fishing is Silver Thread.

[DJD]

I don't use it at all. Personally, I think it's use is overrated. Jmo

[09Z7SC]

I use fluoro on 95% of my reels. I only use mono for topwater. I have only had breakoffs witht it if I haven't retied in a while. I have had numerous breakoffs with Stren XL and XT mono when casting.

[Tim_T]

I use itfor nearly everything except topwater and deep cranking. P use a palomar knot and have not had any breakage issues.

[roadrunner]

Everyone seems to be going to this line and having success with it so i have tried a few different brands and i must say i am not impressed.Granted i do like the low visibility,Sinking,and sensitivity .But I have had more break offs,Knot's while casting than i can count.I am a firm believer in using line conditioner on my lines especially the Fluorocarbon.


I tie primarily the Palomar knot,Improved cinch and and make sure the line is wet when cinching down .So what is the problem here.so far the brands i have tried are

Streen 100% fluorocarbon
Vicious 100%
Spiderwire ultracast

So far the only lines i have the best confidence in is Pline Cx premium and Suffix pro mix,Both are crazy strong and cast a mile while laying smooth .

And i just do not have any confidence in it so far.Primarily i use Fluorocarbon on spinning reels for finesse fishing in ultra clear water

I have not had any problems with Fluorocarbon line however I never use line conditioner. Try it with out conditioner it might be breaking down the line and making it weaker.