I love fluorocarbon, I use it for pretty much everything but top water. I like sunline sniper and seagur invizx. When I first started using it I had a lot of problems with it breaking at my knot. I always tied a palomar knot. I started tying a worlds fair knot and now it is the only knot I tie with fluorocarbon, I don't know if I have ever had that knot break on me. I tried the stren and hated it and have never been a big spider wire fan (any of their line) and I haven't tried the vicious. Don't give up on fluorocarbon it is great stuff.