Am i the only on who dislikes Fluorocarbon ?

[sweetwater]

Outside of using it as leader material I don't like it either. Always use a bloodknot to tie fluoro to mono. Fluoro is stiff, it breaks at the knot easily and it does not cast as well as mono or braid. Fluoro as leader material and braid or mono as mainline material. That's all you need.

[stripernut]

Outside of using it as leader material I don't like it either. Always use a bloodknot to tie fluoro to mono. Fluoro is stiff, it breaks at the knot easily and it does not cast as well as mono or braid. Fluoro as leader material and braid or mono as mainline material. That's all you need.

folks am i missing something here? the knot breaks at the hook when used as mainline....but the knot DOESNT break at the hook when using it as a leader? seriously im not being a "$M@RT@$$ here, i just dont get it. and yes i understand the relationship between mono stretch / shock leader etc. BUT its still a knot tied to a hook (or the eye of a lure) PLUS an additional knot splicing the mono to the flouro.
fill me in, im always looking for info that can help me improve, I NEED IT BAD !

[NEWTON]

Most People who have a Fluoro problem. Well you here all about Try this line and That but you never hear anyone say if you are breaking on the hook set YOUR DRAG IS TO TIGHT.

With Fluoro line if you grab your line and pull it if you do not have a smooth pull with this line in will break.

I have a buddy that was having this and we went to Barren and I like to have cut my hand when I did a pull test on his. Backed the drag and he has not broke off again.

[Embrey]

i keep my drag tight until i need to loosen it, and havent broke anything off. i think alot of problems are user error. once you get it right,youll hate mono

[mkmsports41]

I agree with Newton. Your drag is too tight. If you are applying a good firm hook set on a good fish your drag should slip. I have used several brands out their. Viscious, Seagur, Yozuri and my biggest probelm about the line is I cant break it when I get hung up. I tie the palomar knot 95% of the time. Too be honest I dont use line conditioner either. I will spray a little real magic on from time to time. I also re tie often.

[smuckey41]

Most People who have a Fluoro problem. Well you here all about Try this line and That but you never hear anyone say if you are breaking on the hook set YOUR DRAG IS TO TIGHT.

With Fluoro line if you grab your line and pull it if you do not have a smooth pull with this line in will break.

I have a buddy that was having this and we went to Barren and I like to have cut my hand when I did a pull test on his. Backed the drag and he has not broke off again.

This is true about the drag if you like to do bill dance hook sets.I never was one to do a hardhook sets so not a issue but I have buddys that seem like they use their whole body to set a hook and break their line on the hook set I tell them the same thing loosen the drag to off set the hook set and no proublems after that. But for me I had p-line 100% fluorocarbon and fluoroclear and have had no proublems.

[sweetwater]

folks am i missing something here? the knot breaks at the hook when used as mainline....but the knot DOESNT break at the hook when using it as a leader? seriously im not being a "$M@RT@$$ here, i just dont get it. and yes i understand the relationship between mono stretch / shock leader etc. BUT its still a knot tied to a hook (or the eye of a lure) PLUS an additional knot splicing the mono to the flouro.
fill me in, im always looking for info that can help me improve, I NEED IT BAD !

It will tend to break at the knot because fluoro is a harder material than mono. Being harder means it is brittle and using knots that have very tight kinks and turns will weaken the fluoro and thereby make it break easier. San Diego jam for fluoro to hook connections and bloodknot or seagar knot for mono/fluoro connections. Bloodknot is easier. Using a heavier fluoro leader than the mainline will help take full advantage of fluoros good qualities. If you like to use a c-rig or a dropshot rig you can't beat the mono main to fluoro setup.

[publican57]

I like trilene 100% fluorocarbon. I have had trouble with palomar knots and use an improved clinch knot which I find works better.

[Netboy Extraordinaire]

Love it and except for topwater, use it on everything. BPS XPS is what I believe is the best after trying several but will say Viscous is a close second due to the cost

[stripernut]

8 stripers this afternoon on a carrot stik, pfleuger president spinning reel and 8lb test P-Line flouro, no breakoffs, no knot failure (palomar knot)

just my opinion;
good knot properly moistened + drag set properly + correct rod for the application + correct line size for the application = no problems

i wouldnt give up on flouro just yet, alot of good suggestions / ideas posted here....try em and see what works for you. keep in mind if youre breaking fish off at least you are doing something right....YOURE GETTING BIT

[R19]

I am sure that under certain situations that floro carbon is better than mono. As for me I have no intentions of buying any more. I tried Invizex,Triline floro clear,XPS,P line,Gamma,Yozuri and probably a couple more that I can't remember. My problem was breaking on a hookset when fishing a T-rig or jig. I tried palymor,clinch,improved clinch,san diego and improved san diego and still had knot breakage problems...and yes I made sure to wet the line before I cinched it down. My experimentation with floro was over a 3-4 year period before I decided to stop spending my money on something that lost me fish on several ocassions.

What few times I used floro on moving baits such as crank baits or spinner baits, knot breakage was not very often. However when pitching or flipping I broke off very often. I think the reason for such high knot breakage in my case is due to the fact that I have a very hard hookset,espically when fishing a bait on tight line in shallow water. I even tried to back off on the hookset but that is a mental challenge that I could not overcome. For 20 plus years I have always swung for the fence with mono, so it is not easy to just up and change my hookset.

I have always used Berkley Triline Big Game mono and plan on staying with it. Big Game is highly abrasion resistant and has the least amount of stretch of any mono line. Price is very good compared to other mono line but, I do not buy it because it is a good value. I use Big Game because it rarely breaks and is tough as nails. My only complaint is it has a lot of memory and can be stiff in cold weather conditions. I just wish I had all the money and lost fish that floro cost me...I am sure people swear buy floro line but not me.

[kyjake]

Fluorocarbon doesn't have a place in my fishing gear.It's stiffer and harder to handle than mono and I don't believe that the supposed less viability is a valid reason to use it.Are we to believe that the piece of highly visible piece of plastic,wood or lead that we use for lures that fish think are something to eat but are dangerous if they see a line attached?I come from a time before mono when fishermen had a choice of black,gray or green line with the lure tied directly to it but don't think there was a great or any difference in the amount of strikes when we went to clear mono.
Planning a trip to Florida this spring where I will be fishing crystal clear shallow water for pompano.My normal rig is 30 lb. braid with a 10 lb. mono leader but will set one outfit up with the lure tied directly to the braid to see if there is a difference in the amount of hits.
Jake