Which game to watch tonight?????

[Tim_T]

Since you brought up Cal, who took over a program in as bad or worse shape than Pitino took over, Number 1 Recruiting Class - Elite 8, Number 1 Recruiting Class - Final Four, Number 1 Recruiting Class - Number 1 in the Country and Odds on favorite to win the title this year. Either Pitino is not the Recruiter/Coach that Cal is, or Cal is just lucky. Cal's first 2 1/2 years on the job is EXACTLY what Louisville Fans thought they was getting Consistently within 4 years and fans like MHall is right to be dissapointed

LMAO you must be joking. Cal took over a team that was two years removed from an Elite 8 that also had a second team all-american (who ended up turning pro and not playing for Cal). Pitino took over a team with one Elite 8 in 15 years! Cal is a better recruiter than any coach in the country, but he is mediocre at everything else. When it comes to developing players and taking less talented teams to greater heights, he is the fourth best coach in this area.

[Netboy Extraordinaire]

LMAO you must be joking. Cal took over a team that was two years removed from an Elite 8 that also had a second team all-american (who ended up turning pro and not playing for Cal). Pitino took over a team with one Elite 8 in 15 years! Cal is a better recruiter than any coach in the country, but he is mediocre at everything else. When it comes to developing players and taking less talented teams to greater heights, he is the fourth best coach in this area.

When does Cal have less talented teams? I guess it takes no coaching talent at all to get the caliber player Cal gets to play Defense, spread the shots around and play TEAM ball. Only those Coaches that can only get "less talent" has to try and coach them to greater heights. Cal does not have that problem and won't have that problem as long as he is at Kentucky. 2 year 2 drafts and how many draft picks? Add in the current class of soon to be NBA millionaires and who wouldn't want to play for Cal? Tv every game, UK fan base, guaranteed chance at conference and national titles and lottery draft picks galore.

[bplgocards]

When does Cal have less talented teams? I guess it takes no coaching talent at all to get the caliber player Cal gets to play Defense, spread the shots around and play TEAM ball. Only those Coaches that can only get "less talent" has to try and coach them to greater heights. Cal does not have that problem and won't have that problem as long as he is at Kentucky. 2 year 2 drafts and how many draft picks? Add in the current class of soon to be NBA millionaires and who wouldn't want to play for Cal? Tv every game, UK fan base, guaranteed chance at conference and national titles and lottery draft picks galore.

Still no title though. When will UK fans begin to be disappointed with all this 'talent' and nothing to show for it?

[Netboy Extraordinaire]

Still no title though. When will UK fans begin to be disappointed with all this 'talent' and nothing to show for it?

You have about 6 more weeks before you have to stop the "no title" excuse. By the way, what school did your coach win his only title? Even then it took the 1996 team to win it and my 1 yr old Granddaughter could have coached that team to the title

[redneckshadrap]

This is my opinion....


Who built the fan base at UK? We just got over Eddie Sutton..Here comes Ricky P. Rebuilds and the fan base explodes. Some of us on here are old enough to have lived it and some have just read about it.
Cal was at UMASS....Every one in the world that there for UK hated him. Pitino sent him home to hang a banner.....in Rupp....

Along comes the NBA and off goes Pitino.

Dust settles in Ky and in comes Tubby....Too me the most boring coach I ever watched. Yeah some good runs, but he just wasn't Ricky P.

Denny hangs it up and along Ricky P comes back to Ky. To the ire of some and the desire of others what was once in the hands of the Big Blue was now 70 miles west wearing red.

I, for one, expected a lot more out of Pitino. It doesn't male sense why he can't recruit. I know recruiting classes don't quarantee automatic banners...LOL! But one thing I think he had then that Cal didn't was when he was at UK every high school kid wanted to play for him. Cal was at UMASS. Who was UMASS....Pitino was at KENTUCKY>>>>
But he left. Not only did he crush the UK fan base, but College basketball as a whole. Now he's back. Same thing has happened to another coach named Steve Spurrier...

But guys the season aint over yet. Cards played the #2 team in the country down to the wire. We'll see in March.

[Chubminnow]

But guys the season aint over yet. Cards played the #2 team in the country down to the wire. We'll see in March.

That's right...I think the same way as you Billy. Granted I don't see U of L advancing to the elite 8 in the tourney, nor do I see them advancing to the sweet 16..."IF" they make the tourney at all, but I'm hoping they do.

Everyone can say "IF" they would have hit the free throw's, "IF" they would have stayed out of foul trouble, "IF" Siva wasn't such a moron, etc...But you know, "IF" my aunt had an apple sack she would have been my uncle. At the end of the day they still gave the #2 ranked team a serious run for their money.

This fair weather fan is proud to be from Louisville, Kentucky...go Cards, go Cats, go Murray State!! It's all good to me, just let me know when the steaks are ready to come off the grill!

[mhall]

I wasn't praising Siva during the 6 game winning streak either. I am always a fan and I never waiver that gives me the right to bitch. I was at the call in show last night at Buckheads, had Paul Rogers read my question on the air to Rick and he danced it...all the way around it.

All I want is Siva to grow a basketball IQ, thats it. I have excepted the fact that I will give birth to a baby Beaver before he finds a jumpshot. I have expected the fact I will love Obama before he could ever hit TWO free throws in a row...

But I WILL NOT except doing the exact same stupid crap 3 to 8 times a game, it's flippin stupid and if it takes making him sit down and take losses to teach him then so BE IT!

[jcb]

I wasn't praising Siva during the 6 game winning streak either. I am always a fan and I never waiver that gives me the right to bitch. I was at the call in show last night at Buckheads, had Paul Rogers read my question on the air to Rick and he danced it...all the way around it.

All I want is Siva to grow a basketball IQ, thats it. I have excepted the fact that I will give birth to a baby Beaver before he finds a jumpshot. I have expected the fact I will love Obama before he could ever hit TWO free throws in a row...

But I WILL NOT except doing the exact same stupid crap 3 to 8 times a game, it's flippin stupid and if it takes making him sit down and take losses to teach him then so BE IT!

I heard that and yep, Ricky P did the ol' West End Watusi around that question.

[redneckshadrap]

Killer Mark....sometimes folks need to HEAR<<<<< and I mean HEAR,,,,,,,,,Tubby listened but never heard,,,Hope Ricky P HEARS<<<<<<

[redneckshadrap]

Still no title though. When will UK fans begin to be disappointed with all this 'talent' and nothing to show for it?

After the end of the Tubby era and Drunky Clyde...I'm good for a while...LOL!!!!I think if they start keeping kids in school for 2 yrs some of these bomb recruiting classes will start staggering amongst different schools..

[Tim_T]

When does Cal have less talented teams? I guess it takes no coaching talent at all to get the caliber player Cal gets to play Defense, spread the shots around and play TEAM ball. Only those Coaches that can only get "less talent" has to try and coach them to greater heights. Cal does not have that problem and won't have that problem as long as he is at Kentucky. 2 year 2 drafts and how many draft picks? Add in the current class of soon to be NBA millionaires and who wouldn't want to play for Cal? Tv every game, UK fan base, guaranteed chance at conference and national titles and lottery draft picks galore.

Elwood, he has taken teams at Memphis to the NIT with McDonald's All-Americans on the floor and he has also taken medicare teams to the NIT. Now you can hang from his sack and scream that he is the greatest coach in the country if that makes you feel better, but it still doesn't change the facts. He guy is a great recruiter and mediocre coach.

Not one time have you ever seen Cal have a surprise team. Never a team with average talent make a decent run. Basically you could make the arugment that he has underachieved at UK using the things you just posted. How many NBA players and he still doesn't have a ring? Heck look at what he had at Memphis and he couldn't win C-USA. Pitino, Huggins and Crean owned that conference. The bottom line is that without Big East expansion, Cal doesn't end up at UK.

[Netboy Extraordinaire]

Tim,

Cal never had the talent at Memphis like he has at Kentucky. When he takes Kentucky to the NIT or loses in the first round of the NCAA Tourney with the talent he is getting now then he is underachieving. I guess if Cal loses 2 years in a row in the first round of the NCAA then that would be "occasionally competing for a national title" in the eyes of certain in state rival fans. Face facts, Pitino has not just lost a step he has lost the race. The fainting red tailights Pitino sees in his nightmare every night are those of The Big Blue Bus putting more distance between each program and if he had any pride in himself or Louisville, he would get out now before it gets worse. Pitino underachieved before he had any recruiting / coaching competition in Lexington and it will be a cold day in heck before Pitino recruits a better class than Cal or has a better team than Cal. A perfect example is Siva, where this sort of started. Pitino has coached Siva to 10% worse production from last year to this year. Cal has made Teague look like 2 different point guards before IU at halftime and after IU halftime. Cal can recruit, Cal can coach and Pitino is playing second fiddle to him in the state of Kentucky.