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    Re: Gas prices

    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    E85.......you're KIDDING, RIGHT.......

    It gives you less fuel economy, steals from our foodsource, and COSTS more to manufacture than gasoline.

    No......how about we open all of our drilling leases, and FLOOD the market with our oil. PUT OPEC out of business. After all they cannot eat their oil. Play on OUR playing field, or don't play.

    And the reason is obvious.........Your and Ron Pauls' friend AmadinnaNUTJOB in Iran is practicing closing the strait of hormuz. That waterway ships 1/5 of the worlds oil. Without it, Oil markets collapse.

    Future price of oil is reflecting this DIRECT action.......but hey, the United States has no interest in IRAN, right......It is NOT OUR BUSINESS, right.....

    If it is not our business.....Stop complaining about oil prices.

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    E85 is made in America

    Does have less MPG but gives more HP

    Sanctions on Iran for nuclear oversite are the reasons for tensions. Give them Carte Blanche to neuclear weapon?

    Gas will soon surpass E85 in costs, the oil strangle hold is not going to let up. We need to look at alternatives now.

    Flooding the market with US oil??? Like that would happen. I don't think Exxon or Marathon oil would process any more oil than they need to to maximize profit.

    So I would rather pay 5-10% more for E85 knowing its made here in the US than sent that money to Saudia Arabia.

    Now if we are going to confront these extremist we are going to have to make the effort/sacrifice. Commit to alterative energy sources, conserve what we can in gas consuption, start investing in the USA instead of China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kydonky View Post
    E85 is made in America

    Does have less MPG but gives more HP
    I know that with my truck, E85 has to be at least $1 less per gallon than regular for me to see any benefit.......without taking into account the additional maintenance required that comes with using E85....

    If I take the additional maintenance into account, then it has to be a substantially larger difference in price.

    I haven't ran into a situation yet where E85 was a cheaper option, and I've had that truck since 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artcarney_agr View Post
    I know that with my truck, E85 has to be at least $1 less per gallon than regular for me to see any benefit.......without taking into account the additional maintenance required that comes with using E85....
    Okay, after checking the numbers again, it's not quite $1, but close.

    If you don't know your MPG with E85, here's a good source:
    http://fueleconomy.net/feg/bymake/bymanuNF.shtml

    A handy calculator is found here to compare the cost of E85 vs. reg. unleaded:
    http://e85prices.com/

    My truck is a 2006 Ford F150 4WD 5.4L V8
    I'm getting about 14 mpg driving around here in the city of Louisville.

    Comparatively, I'll get about 11 mpg with E85.

    Reg. 87 gas this morning was $3.75 by my house.
    E-85 was $3.15 here by work.

    Using the calculator, E85 would need to be at $2.94 to be comparable to Reg. 87 at $3.75
    -OR-
    If E85 holds at $3.15, then 87 would have to hit $4.00 to see any benefit.

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    $3.75 in Frankfort at 8am, I decided to wait and fill up in Lexington. Good thing $3.47 at Speedway off the 110 exit. Gas light came on as I was on the off ramp so I got the max I could on that deal

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    Re: Gas prices

    Quote Originally Posted by Netboy Extraordinaire View Post
    $3.75 in Frankfort at 8am, I decided to wait and fill up in Lexington. Good thing $3.47 at Speedway off the 110 exit. Gas light came on as I was on the off ramp so I got the max I could on that deal
    I have a "mad max" tanker in my back yard.........I hope the crazies don't start shooting over it.

    Later,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Netboy Extraordinaire View Post
    $3.75 in Frankfort at 8am, I decided to wait and fill up in Lexington. Good thing $3.47 at Speedway off the 110 exit. Gas light came on as I was on the off ramp so I got the max I could on that deal
    The sad part is that we are actually thinking $3.47 is a deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artcarney_agr View Post
    Okay, after checking the numbers again, it's not quite $1, but close.

    If you don't know your MPG with E85, here's a good source:
    http://fueleconomy.net/feg/bymake/bymanuNF.shtml

    A handy calculator is found here to compare the cost of E85 vs. reg. unleaded:
    http://e85prices.com/

    My truck is a 2006 Ford F150 4WD 5.4L V8
    I'm getting about 14 mpg driving around here in the city of Louisville.

    Comparatively, I'll get about 11 mpg with E85.

    Reg. 87 gas this morning was $3.75 by my house.
    E-85 was $3.15 here by work.

    Using the calculator, E85 would need to be at $2.94 to be comparable to Reg. 87 at $3.75
    -OR-
    If E85 holds at $3.15, then 87 would have to hit $4.00 to see any benefit.
    EXACTLY.

    My 2010 F150 4WD 5.4L V8 is a Flex Fuel vehicle and can take the E85...the problem is that E85 is a joke, and a lot of people don't understand what you posted above.

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