Gas prices

[Hydra-Sport]

How are yal liking this 86% CHANGE in gas prices? HOPEless yet?

Had the chance to grab all the oil when we were in Iraq, kind of a payment for all we did for that country. Will kill A$$holes for oil.

[Chubminnow]

Parker - Dag gone!!! lol...

Ok...now on to the original subject matter, lol...The best I can tell in my peabody little brain...what comes to mind for me about these gas prices is several factors.

1. Wall Street has their hand in it.

2. Iran trying to close off the Strait of Hormuz.

3. The tax man has his hand in it.

4. Supply and demand. Back in the day (after WWII) we were the only true oil thirsty machine in the world....so here you had all these oil guru's in the middle east wanting our business, cutting each others prices so they could get a share of the United States thirst for oil..."Mr. United States, how much are you paying for oil, $5.00 dollars per barrel? I'll sell it to you for $4.00 dollars per barrel, (and so on). Now...fast forward to today...it's still a supply and demand thing...the only difference now is the demad is much greater than it was "back in the day"...Now we have China, Japan, India and I don't know who all, that have as strong of a thirst for oil as we do...in fact I think China is more thirsty for oil now than we are.

This is how I see it...I tend to think that unless we drill our own, things ain't gonna get any better. But if we DO drill our own, I'm afraid the EPA, PETA, OSHA, USGBC (United States Green Building Council), etc (whatever other agency is out there)...will all have something to say and it will cost a fortune to drill it ourselves.

[mhall]

I like Parker's avatar..........ALOT

[kygorski]

Were exporting more refined product than we ever did.Big oil is profiting by that. We aren't. Speculators are raisining crude oil prices in america.They are profitingt by that.Big oil THEY GOT IT, WE GET IT IN THE END[BOTH WAYS]

[HURRICANEBOB]

Based on 15,000 miles per year, and 16 mpg.

Every dollar/gallon it goes up costs me about $80 dollars per month/about $960/year.
Each dime it goes up, about $8/month, or $96/year.
With those figures in mind I can try to figure out how to make that up each month and year. If I just quit smoking, I'd have no worries until gas went up $2 more per gallon.


1ST COLUMN:GAS COST PER GALLON
2ND COLUMN:GAS COST FOR 1 YEAR
3RD COLUMN: GAS COST PER MONTH

$2.49 $2,334 $195
$2.59 $2,428 $202
$2.69 $2,522 $210
$2.79 $2,616 $218
$2.89 $2,709 $226
$2.99 $2,803 $234
$3.09 $2,897 $241
$3.19 $2,991 $249
$3.29 $3,084 $257
$3.39 $3,178 $265
$3.49 $3,272 $273
$3.59 $3,366 $280
$3.69 $3,459 $288
$3.79 $3,553 $296
$3.89 $3,647 $304
$3.99 $3,741 $312
$4.09 $3,834 $320
$4.19 $3,928 $327
$4.29 $4,022 $335
$4.39 $4,116 $343
$4.49 $4,209 $351
$4.59 $4,303 $359
$4.69 $4,397 $366
$4.79 $4,491 $374
$4.89 $4,584 $382
$4.99 $4,678 $390
$5.09 $4,772 $398
$5.19 $4,866 $405
$5.29 $4,959 $413
$5.39 $5,053 $421
$5.49 $5,147 $429

Here's a web place you can do the same: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/savemoney.shtml

OR: Email me at [email protected] if you want a copy of an Excel spreadsheet that allows you to compare 2 vehicles, by just entering the miles per year and the expected mpg.

[waterdog101]

any and all oil drilled, here and elsewhere will be sold on the world market. having the supply of oil isn't the problem. they have the oil, they say they can't refine enough to keep up with the demand for the finished product. how many oil refineries would 4 TRILLION DOLLARS build. and built here in the USA. would gas not be cheaper at the pump. I think 4 TRILLION would build enough refineries to keep up with demand and lower our gas prices. but this won't be happening, our 4 TRILLION was wasted. The tally for post-9/11 military costs is staggering. More than 8,300 American service members or contractors dead in Iraq and Afghanistan. Nearly 200,000 civilians killed in those two wars. An estimated final financial cost of up to $4 trillion. And the only “benefits” of these human and monetary outlays, according to the Brown researches, are “democracy” and “greater rights for women.”

[kydonky]

any and all oil drilled, here and elsewhere will be sold on the world market. having the supply of oil isn't the problem. they have the oil, they say they can't refine enough to keep up with the demand for the finished product. how many oil refineries would 4 TRILLION DOLLARS build. and built here in the USA. would gas not be cheaper at the pump. I think 4 TRILLION would build enough refineries to keep up with demand and lower our gas prices. but this won't be happening, our 4 TRILLION was wasted. The tally for post-9/11 military costs is staggering. More than 8,300 American service members or contractors dead in Iraq and Afghanistan. Nearly 200,000 civilians killed in those two wars. An estimated final financial cost of up to $4 trillion. And the only ?benefits? of these human and monetary outlays, according to the Brown researches, are ?democracy? and ?greater rights for women.?

Actually our refining capacity is more than adequate at this time. So much so that gasoline and other refined products are now The US's largest export to other countries.

I think that much of this improvement in refining capacity was built during the G.W. administration ( I will give him credit for helping with this). However, increased refining has not lowered gas prices. Big oil is just exporting what they can't sell here. I don't think even G.W. saw this happening. So now big oil wants to drill our natural resoures with the promiss of cheap gas. Nothing stopping them from sending it to China, Mexico. I don't think I trust them with a blank check.

The 4 trillion bailout funds? That's another question. Everyone is so upset that the US auto makers (some even more so than the banks getting funds) got some of this money from the Obama administration. Yet they are employing people with good wages here in the US. The banking industry has not done much with their bailout funds other than to pay top brass and hoard the funds.

Yea, much of the 4 trillion was misused/wasted. We could have built a lot of rail lines, wind energy and solar energy farms, installed polution controls on coal fired power plants and on and on.

[GeoFisher]

any and all oil drilled, here and elsewhere will be sold on the world market. having the supply of oil isn't the problem. they have the oil, they say they can't refine enough to keep up with the demand for the finished product. how many oil refineries would 4 TRILLION DOLLARS build. and built here in the USA. would gas not be cheaper at the pump. I think 4 TRILLION would build enough refineries to keep up with demand and lower our gas prices. but this won't be happening, our 4 TRILLION was wasted. The tally for post-9/11 military costs is staggering. More than 8,300 American service members or contractors dead in Iraq and Afghanistan. Nearly 200,000 civilians killed in those two wars. An estimated final financial cost of up to $4 trillion. And the only “benefits” of these human and monetary outlays, according to the Brown researches, are “democracy” and “greater rights for women.”

Every time you WHINE and BITCH about the money spent in IRAQ and Afghanistan, you start to lose the argument.

I AGREE.......we need more refineries.
I AGREE........we spent a crapload of money in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I AGREE.........we should be winding those down..........

Bringing it up in EVERY ARGUMENT you have is getting old.

Try something else.

Later,

Geo

[kydonky]

Every time you WHINE and BITCH about the money spent in IRAQ and Afghanistan, you start to lose the argument.

I AGREE.......we need more refineries.
I AGREE........we spent a crapload of money in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I AGREE.........we should be winding those down..........

Bringing it up in EVERY ARGUMENT you have is getting old.

Try something else.

Later,

Geo

Geo, I agree with 2 and 3, but more refineries have not lowered fuel prices. Fuel is our No. 1 export now, surpassing food. We are selling refined products overseas.

Consider that if we drill baby drill that our oil will end up in Mexico, Japan, Korea, China (just like increased refined products). Gas stay's ^, we depleat our resourse, Big oil profits ^, you and I get laid off to a sweat shop in India.

[waterdog101]

Every time you WHINE and BITCH about the money spent in IRAQ and Afghanistan, you start to lose the argument.

I AGREE.......we need more refineries.
I AGREE........we spent a crapload of money in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I AGREE.........we should be winding those down..........

Bringing it up in EVERY ARGUMENT you have is getting old.

Try something else.

Later,

Geo

does a crapload = 4 trillion dollars.