NASCAR at Daytona

[Netboy Extraordinaire]

No doubt it is a safer sport today than years ago. Dale Sr.'s death was probably the biggest impact on making the cars, equipment and cushion walls all safer. Agreed that both wrecks plus Gordon's wreck in the Shootout Race would have resulted in injury or worse. Just saying when a guy is in 11th place going into the last turn of the last lap comes out the winner, this is too much. I think the cars being safer is the reason all the rules have been changed to keep the pack together.

[artcarney_agr]

Just saying when a guy is in 11th place going into the last turn of the last lap comes out the winner, this is too much. I think the cars being safer is the reason all the rules have been changed to keep the pack together.

I liked the result! He ran a clean race, stayed out of trouble, and capitalized on some other guys' mistakes. It's no different than winning on a good pit strategy or fuel mileage.

[Netboy Extraordinaire]

That was not racing, it was wrecking. Wreck on lap 2 and 2 more wrecks with less than 15 to go. After the first wreck everybody just rode around WITH NO BUMP DRAFTING for the next 175 laps. Then with 15 to go, they started racing again. Just make the race 25 laps long to begin with and save the boring middle. Get rid of the restrictor plates and let the cars run.

[artcarney_agr]

That was not racing, it was wrecking. Wreck on lap 2 and 2 more wrecks with less than 15 to go. After the first wreck everybody just rode around WITH NO BUMP DRAFTING for the next 175 laps. Then with 15 to go, they started racing again. Just make the race 25 laps long to begin with and save the boring middle. Get rid of the restrictor plates and let the cars run.

I get the feeling that you're really not a race fan at all.........

[redneckshadrap]

I get the feeling that you're really not a race fan at all.........

No he is.... I'm with him on taking off the restricter plates...but if they did there would be a funeral every super speedway race. Too much speed...way too much...

[Netboy Extraordinaire]

I get the feeling that you're really not a race fan at all.........

The first sentence of the original post that started this thread said I was not a NASCAR fan. Give me the Late Models on Dirt at Florence Speedway or my Dad's 57 Chevy at Mountain Park Dragstrip any day over NASCAR.

[artcarney_agr]

Give me the Late Models on Dirt at Florence Speedway or my Dad's 57 Chevy at Mountain Park Dragstrip any day over NASCAR.

Why? They might wreck...

[Netboy Extraordinaire]

Why? They might wreck...

They might but Jimmy Owens, Scott Bloomquist, Billy Moyer, Donnie Moran and such accelerate faster than a NASCAR and run just as close as NASCAR on DIRT SIDEWAYS IN THE TURNS and don't pile up like they did at Daytona. I have seen Bombers at Richmond run cleaner races than Daytona. If they piled up at the Dirt track in Richmond like Daytona, Butterball would turn over in his grave

[Chubminnow]

Whether anyone likes it or not...seeing a good crash, or bad crash depending on how you look at it, is part of the draw for a large number of NASCAR fans.

[artcarney_agr]

They might but Jimmy Owens, Scott Bloomquist, Billy Moyer, Donnie Moran and such accelerate faster than a NASCAR and run just as close as NASCAR on DIRT SIDEWAYS IN THE TURNS and don't pile up like they did at Daytona.

Trying to compare dirt racing to asphalt is just asinine. Way different cars, way different factors, and the speeds aren't anywhere close to one another.

Do you really know that much about dirt racing? I mean you just named the biggest joke of all, Bloomquist. If drug use was policed on dirt like it is on asphalt, Bloomers would have been parked a long time ago, just like Jeremy Mayfield.

[Netboy Extraordinaire]

Trying to compare dirt racing to asphalt is just asinine. Way different cars, way different factors, and the speeds aren't anywhere close to one another.

Do you really know that much about dirt racing? I mean you just named the biggest joke of all, Bloomquist. If drug use was policed on dirt like it is on asphalt, Bloomers would have been parked a long time ago, just like Jeremy Mayfield.

Steve Francis, Don O Neal, Earl Pearson Jr, Billy Moyer, Billy Moyer Jr., Donnie "Million Dollar Man" Moran (who won the first ever Million Dollar Race", North / South 100 in Florence, The Dream in Eldora (Track that Tony Stewart owns), YES I follow the Lucas Oil Late Models. A good friend of mine has a late model that he races in Richmond, Florence and Bardstown. The only reason that I mentioned Bloomquist is that he is the most well known name in Late Model racing. As far as the speeds not being anywhere close to one another, Bristol TN 1/2 mile concrete surface track record is 128 MPH in qualifying. A Late Model top speeds are 125 MPH, that is pretty close to me. 125 on dirt sideways in the turns versus Nascar on concrete is pretty equal in ability needed to drive. Ask Tony Stewart if he could make the same amount of money that he makes in NASCAR driving a Late Model, which one would he choose? He answered that question when he ran 2nd in the Prelude to the Dream a couple of years ago. The answer, Dirt Track Racer. I know a little bit about Dirt Track racing

[artcarney_agr]

As far as the speeds not being anywhere close to one another, Bristol TN 1/2 mile concrete surface track record is 128 MPH in qualifying. A Late Model top speeds are 125 MPH, that is pretty close to me. I know a little bit about Dirt Track racing

Uh, Carl Edwards qualifying speed was 194.738 mph........how is that even close to 128 ???

You may know something about dirt track racing, but you don't seem to know numbers very well.........