GM to shut VOLT production down......fire 1300 people.

[Devils Horse]

The good news is that the Volt production was just suspended not discontinued.

Inovation and progress comes at a cost and takes time to be accepted.

Look at the horseless carraige. What a silly machine that was noisy, unreliable and expensive.

The real story out there is the development of the liquid battery that stores a tremendous amount of energy. Can be placed in the power grid to store all excess power that is now being discharged back into the ground.

Everyone would do themselves a favor if they switched off Fox news occassionally and tuned into the science channel.

Do yourself a favor, switch off MSNBC and try using your brain.

The federal government didn't borrow billions and give it to those who developed the horseless carriage.

[GeoFisher]

Do yourself a favor, switch off MSNBC and try using your brain.

The federal government didn't borrow billions and give it to those who developed the horseless carriage.

BOOM.......we have a winner.

[RICHYD4U]

Do yourself a favor, switch off MSNBC and try using your brain.

The federal government didn't borrow billions and give it to those who developed the horseless carriage.

BINGO!

-Rich

[kydonky]

BINGO!

-Rich

They also did nothing to stop the great depression.

So in WWII we converted most all of our factories to war materials production. Chrysler made jeeps, Ford made jeeps, catipillar made tanks.

When all of our factories are closed do you really think China is going to sell us tanks, planes and missles (on credit) when we have to defend ourselves from North Korean wackos???

Get real people, start supporting you neighbors and country for a change.

[FlyLie]

Right wing Conservative dirty water flows downhill, just as does Left wing Liberal dirty water. But sometimes, Moderate water forms a stable pool!!

[HURRICANEBOB]

They also did nothing to stop the great depression.

So in WWII we converted most all of our factories to war materials production. Chrysler made jeeps, Ford made jeeps, catipillar made tanks.

When all of our factories are closed do you really think China is going to sell us tanks, planes and missles (on credit) when we have to defend ourselves from North Korean wackos???

Get real people, start supporting you neighbors and country for a change.

Tank Production by Manufacturer from 1940 to December 31, 1945
Manufacturer Quantity
Detroit Tank Arsenal 22,234
American Car and Foundry 15,224
Fisher Tank Arsenal, Grand Blanc 13,137
Cadillac Motor Company 10,142
Pressed Steel 8,648
Pullman-Standard 3,926
American Locomotive Works 2,985
Baldwin Locomotive Works 2,515
Massey Harris Company 2,473
Ford Motor Company 1,690
Lima Locomotive 1,655
Montreal Locomotive Works 1,144
Marmon-Herrington 1,070
Pacific Car and Foundry 926
Federal Machine 540
Rock Island Arsenal 94
International Harvester 75
Total 88,410

Jeeps? Willy's????

Sounds like it was pretty spread around. Today, Abrams = General Dynamics, Bradley = BAE Systems Land and Armaments, formerly United Defense. (B stands for British). HMMWV = AM General.

There are no government owned factories that build us ground combat vehicles, they are all privately owned corporations doing business with the govt.

[kydonky]

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Sounds like it was pretty spread around. Today, Abrams = General Dynamics, Bradley = BAE Systems Land and Armaments, formerly United Defense. (B stands for British). HMMWV = AM General.

There are no government owned factories that build us ground combat vehicles, they are all privately owned corporations doing business with the govt.[/QUOTE]

I think you missed the point being made completely.

No where is it stated any company was owned by the fereral government.

The point is that the US had a healthy manufactoring base in place during WWII.

These factories were there to produce military equipment.

So today we are moving manufactoring to Mexico, China etc. How would we be able to supply US military with China factories.

[HURRICANEBOB]

So today we are moving manufactoring to Mexico, China etc. How would we be able to supply US military with China factories.[/QUOTE]

I agree with your concern, but what I was trying to say (and did so badly, my bad), is that we are at war, and the US industiral base is supporting the fight.

[DJD]

They also did nothing to stop the great depression.

So in WWII we converted most all of our factories to war materials production. Chrysler made jeeps, Ford made jeeps, catipillar made tanks.

When all of our factories are closed do you really think China is going to sell us tanks, planes and missles (on credit) when we have to defend ourselves from North Korean wackos???

Get real people, start supporting you neighbors and country for a change.

Seems to me the fact that politicians make decisions that almost force us to buy foreign made products, they sleep with the unions and they side with corruption in business kinda makes it their fault.
The buy American mantra is old news. Maybe in the 80's?? But not now. Now we need leaders who put us back to equal ground or above the foreign companies we do business with. I'm not gonna blame any tax paying American for our situation. I'm gonna blame politicians because they made the decisions or had a hand in it. I'm just trying to survive within the rules they place on us....so are millions of others that wake up get dressed and go to work.

[kydonky]

Seems to me the fact that politicians make decisions that almost force us to buy foreign made products, they sleep with the unions and they side with corruption in business kinda makes it their fault.
The buy American mantra is old news. Maybe in the 80's?? But not now. Now we need leaders who put us back to equal ground or above the foreign companies we do business with. I'm not gonna blame any tax paying American for our situation. I'm gonna blame politicians because they made the decisions or had a hand in it. I'm just trying to survive within the rules they place on us....so are millions of others that wake up get dressed and go to work.

Carefull what you wish for. We could be on equal ground with China work force (or one of many 3rd world countries). <$10.00 day pay, 60 hr work week. Median home price is base on a hut with one 100 watt bulb. College education will not necessarily save you, very few college grads are actually working in their study field.

So we eliminate minimum wage, stop all discrimination rules, bybass all OSHA and safty regulations, disregaurd any environmental laws and repeal them. We could be on equal footing with China in no time.

[DJD]

I don't see a need to dumb down our way of doing things that are necessary. I see the need for gubment making it easier for US Companies to wanna do business here. What's the main thing we hear as a reason for a company to move their production overseas?? Cost to much to pay americans to do the work. Why is that? Unions? Bad business laws and regs by the gubment?? I don't know the real answer but I say a combo of both and the majority of it being the Unions.
I'm seeing first hand how a local union plays games within the walls of a manufacturing facility right now and it's disturbing. The amount of nitpicking over what a nonunion member does is nothing short of idiotic and childish. That is amplified by a million as you go up the ranks of the union leaders.
I still maintain the problem isnt you or myself it's politicians, unions and corruption. I would like to see the unions busted up first and making the teachers unions one of the first to go. The public education system is a mess and until the people who should be responsible actually take responsibility nothing will change. Sorry went off course a little....I'm just saying that alot of Americans find it easy to blame other countries and eachother when we are not the reasons things have gone out of whack. It's the people making the rules with little to no responsibility of their actions.
I guess the blame on us is that we allow these crooks to be in office. The media taints the messages and the special interest groups assist in getting who they want in power as well. Like I said it will take real leaders to change things.

[HURRICANEBOB]

Seems to me the fact that politicians make decisions that almost force us to buy foreign made products, they sleep with the unions and they side with corruption in business kinda makes it their fault.
The buy American mantra is old news. Maybe in the 80's?? But not now. Now we need leaders who put us back to equal ground or above the foreign companies we do business with. I'm not gonna blame any tax paying American for our situation. I'm gonna blame politicians because they made the decisions or had a hand in it. I'm just trying to survive within the rules they place on us....so are millions of others that wake up get dressed and go to work.

Just another little bit of info, main reasin Military stuff is built in the Us has to do with the security of the specifications and capabilitities of the item manufactured.