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    Re: The Other Shoe has Dropped

    Quote Originally Posted by HURRICANEBOB View Post
    -When you register you show Id to prove you are the person registering. When you vote, you should show Id to prove that the same person registered, is the person voting against that registered name. Otherwise "Miquel" registers, and "Juan posing as" does the voting.

    -IMO you have to be a citizen to vote, and so prove of govt id proves you are entitle to vote. I got not beef with that.

    - Yes there are other foreign nationals in the US, but not nearly so many as:

    Nationality of Illegal Aliens
    The nationalities of the illegal immigrant population in 2000 as estimated by DHS and the Census Bureau and in 2010 by DHS are as follow:

    2000 CB 2000 INS 2010 DHS
    Mexico 3,871,912 4,808,000 6,640,000
    El Salvador 336,717 189,000 620,000
    Guatemala 238,977 144,000 520,000
    Honduras n/a 138,000 330,000
    Philippines 155,239 85,000 280,000
    India 200,306 70,000 200,000
    Ecuador 105,197 108,000 180,000
    Brazil n/a 77,000 180,000
    Korea 182,621 55,000 170,000
    China 226,896 115,000 130,000
    All others 3,387,556 1,211,000 1,550,000
    8,705,421 7,000,000 10,800,000

    So if you want to gain even more support from 2 groups of voters, blacks and Hispanic, that were a big contributor to you before, what do you do? If you are a politician, you make more of those folks eligible to vote.

    IF you are an American President most interested in the health of the county and its laws, well then I don't think you do this.

    Besides, why does an illegal immigrant get a benefit that I as a citizen born and raised have to show ID (and so gladly) to exercise.

    This kinda thing could make me move to Canada, if I didn't hate the wite at the border to shop at Walmart.
    This post cuts to the chase....he did it get those votes and to benefit from the illegal voters that find ways to vote. He did it to keep his black vote...which many of these voters could care two squats about what he does they just vote color....Thats ignorant, stupid and racist....but it's ok because when your black and hundreds of years ago fellow blacks were done wrong you can do and say anything.

    The media targets blacks as broke inner city folks when in fact thats not even close to being true. If I were one of the middle/upper class blacks (financial) who tried and broke away from that sorry image I would be pissed!

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    Re: The Other Shoe has Dropped

    Did my asking around today and everyone I asked was just like me. Tell your name and sign the line is all thats required. So with my poll I can assume that a few of you are not being truthful. By the way, I have voted in every election for the last 27 years and not in the same place for all of them.

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    You are all missing the point it does not have anything to do with color or race. Please let me from Illinois (Obama's home state) explain it to you. In Chicago (Obama's home town) the living democrats vote three times the dead democrats vote twice and there aren't any republicans to vote and if there were the black panthers with night sticks would meet them outside the voting place.

    This is how Obama would like it to be in every state and city but voter ID would stop or slow down all this corruption. So he has his man Holder run rough shod on all the states who think they have a constitutional right to govern themselves.

    This is called the Chicago way. None of what this man does is a surprise for us from Illinois and you all are having to learn the Chicago way. Believe me if he get re elected you haven't seen anything yet this is just a small sample of what he has in store for you.

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    Re: The Other Shoe has Dropped

    Quote Originally Posted by parker View Post
    Did my asking around today and everyone I asked was just like me. Tell your name and sign the line is all thats required. So with my poll I can assume that a few of you are not being truthful. By the way, I have voted in every election for the last 27 years and not in the same place for all of them.

    From all the comments that posters have made trying to explain the process to you and all have been honest, you have a lot of nerve accusing us of not being truthful. The truth of the matter is, for some strange reason, YOU STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND. If you did not go down to the Board of Registrars and register to vote after you came of age, then you are not a registered/qualified voter. That's why voter ID is required to prevent voter fraud.

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    Re: The Other Shoe has Dropped

    Quote Originally Posted by bassin_bug View Post
    From all the comments that posters have made trying to explain the process to you and all have been honest, you have a lot of nerve accusing us of not being truthful. The truth of the matter is, for some strange reason, YOU STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND. If you did not go down to the Board of Registrars and register to vote after you came of age, then you are not a registered/qualified voter. That's why voter ID is required to prevent voter fraud.
    And what you dont seem to understand is I know this. Thats why my name is in the book at the polling station. All im saying is some 18 people I asked today dont show an ID but I am sorry, they must have all lied to me.

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    Re: The Other Shoe has Dropped

    http://www.vote.ky.gov/electiondaydosanddonts.htm

    I was curious since I was always asked for ID and automatically handed them my DL. Looks like they will take other forms. Who knew??

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    http://www.vote.ky.gov/electiondaydosanddonts.htm

    I was curious since I was always asked for ID and automatically handed them my DL. Looks like they will take other forms. Who knew??
    Actually I didnt know of the forms that they will accept either and I really didnt know there were requirements. I was just saying I cant find anyone other than here that are asked for ID. Thanks for the find, always have my credit card with me.

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    Re: The Other Shoe has Dropped

    Quote Originally Posted by parker View Post
    Did my asking around today and everyone I asked was just like me. Tell your name and sign the line is all thats required. So with my poll I can assume that a few of you are not being truthful. By the way, I have voted in every election for the last 27 years and not in the same place for all of them.
    I guess they never voted in Louisville or Bullitt County. When you get to your precinct to vote, before they hand you a voters slip, they ask your name, make you show your ID and then you sign the registry beside your name on a line with an X.

    What precinct you in? I might come up there and vote under your name. After all, how will the know I am not you? Not like I would have to show an ID or something. I have a hard time believing that no one you talked to has to show an ID to vote.

    Hey Parker, how do you pay with a credit card? How do you buy beer or tobacco? How do you rent a car?

    I am so moving to your place. MHall and DJD, I am fixing to ruin your credit and reputation because Parker lives where no ID is required.

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    Re: The Other Shoe has Dropped

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim_T View Post
    I guess they never voted in Louisville or Bullitt County. When you get to your precinct to vote, before they hand you a voters slip, they ask your name, make you show your ID and then you sign the registry beside your name on a line with an X.

    What precinct you in? I might come up there and vote under your name. After all, how will the know I am not you? Not like I would have to show an ID or something. I have a hard time believing that no one you talked to has to show an ID to vote.

    Hey Parker, how do you pay with a credit card? How do you buy beer or tobacco? How do you rent a car?

    I am so moving to your place. MHall and DJD, I am fixing to ruin your credit and reputation because Parker lives where no ID is required.
    I usually swipe my card and I have only been asked once for ID at Dicks sporting goods for that purchase. Dont drink or smoke so I wouldnt know. Its funny you mentioned a rental because I rented one last month and had to show an ID so you got me. Actually you didnt because I dont mind showing mine, just saying I dont show one to vote. You must look like you are not trustworthy to have to show an ID everywhere you go.

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    Re: The Other Shoe has Dropped

    Quote Originally Posted by parker View Post
    I usually swipe my card and I have only been asked once for ID at Dicks sporting goods for that purchase. Dont drink or smoke so I wouldnt know. Its funny you mentioned a rental because I rented one last month and had to show an ID so you got me. Actually you didnt because I dont mind showing mine, just saying I dont show one to vote. You must look like you are not trustworthy to have to show an ID everywhere you go.

    Where do you live Parker? I think I could beat you to the polling place and vote under your name. After all, how on earth could they know I am not you? The way I see it, I don't have to prove I am you, they would have to prove I am not. Seriously, this whole idea of not proving who you say you are when voting is ignorant. If you don't see a problem with proving who you are at the polling place, then I understand why this state and country is in the shape it is!

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    Re: The Other Shoe has Dropped

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim_T View Post
    Where do you live Parker? I think I could beat you to the polling place and vote under your name. After all, how on earth could they know I am not you? The way I see it, I don't have to prove I am you, they would have to prove I am not. Seriously, this whole idea of not proving who you say you are when voting is ignorant. If you don't see a problem with proving who you are at the polling place, then I understand why this state and country is in the shape it is!
    I never said it wasnt a problem. I just know that I have never been asked for an ID to vote. Knowing this I also know that its just a political point the right is trying to make and it wont work with me. The Reagen, Bush and Bush admin had 20 years to straighten this out and my question is why wait until now to bring it up? If it wasnt a problem then why is it one now? I have no problem with congress passing a form of ID to vote and make it mandatory for every state! That isnt going to happen though is it because it never has.

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    Re: The Other Shoe has Dropped

    Quote Originally Posted by parker View Post
    I never said it wasnt a problem. I just know that I have never been asked for an ID to vote. Knowing this I also know that its just a political point the right is trying to make and it wont work with me. The Reagen, Bush and Bush admin had 20 years to straighten this out and my question is why wait until now to bring it up? If it wasnt a problem then why is it one now? I have no problem with congress passing a form of ID to vote and make it mandatory for every state! That isnt going to happen though is it because it never has.
    This has nothing to do with what we are talking about it is not about requiring every state to require an ID it is about the fact Texas has passed the law and Holder is promoting a political agenda that this administration will not let the constitution stand in its way of trying to get Latino votes.

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