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    Re: Kentucky. Louisville. National Semi-Final.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim_T View Post
    If you are talking about thsi years draft then I agree, but I expect Behannan and Deing to be first round picks next season and if Blackshear ever gets healthy he is a definite first round pick. I think a lot of fans don't realize how good Blackshear was before he got hurt. He was a McDonald's All-American last season and the Chicago Player of the year over Anthony Davis.

    What few times he was on the hardwood I thought Blackshear showed glimpses of what he's capable of, and if he stays healthy he'll probably be a stud...Unless Dieng improves drastically, anybody that takes him in the first round is drafting on potential alone....If he goes first round it'd be towards the end to a good team who he sees him as a possible second string 4...Behannen really needs to develop some simblance of an outside shot...He's not big enough to play the 4 in the league and will have to be able to shoot it to play...I'd say 2 of the 3 wind up being first rounders at some point

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    Re: Kentucky. Louisville. National Semi-Final.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishin is life View Post
    What few times he was on the hardwood I thought Blackshear showed glimpses of what he's capable of, and if he stays healthy he'll probably be a stud...Unless Dieng improves drastically, anybody that takes him in the first round is drafting on potential alone....If he goes first round it'd be towards the end to a good team who he sees him as a possible second string 4...Behannen really needs to develop some simblance of an outside shot...He's not big enough to play the 4 in the league and will have to be able to shoot it to play...I'd say 2 of the 3 wind up being first rounders at some point

    I agree about Dieng.if I were Dieng I'd stay one more yr with Pitino...a healthy Blackshear on the other hand...well, he my have been the one to bring out more in Behannen than the coach. Good players respond better to other good players. I look for Siva to be even better if he stays. If this team holds together and no one leaves it could be a long season next yr for anyone who plays them...

    KY,on the other hand, don't know until the last game is played and the newbies come in. Yeah 4-5 guys go to the NBA....4-5 come in to replace them. I doubt there will be another team like this for a while. Look at the first class of thugs. This team is not like that. And that as a fan of UK is what I want.And that as a basketball fan is what I want for the state of Ky...Players that love the game.

    We, both schools, have these players right now, Siva and Darius Miller especially. That is why I think this game will be so special.

    One question....how many players on these teams are actually from KY...Tim???

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    Re: Kentucky. Louisville. National Semi-Final.

    Gorgui has already stated multiple times he came to Louisville to get a degree.

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    Re: Kentucky. Louisville. National Semi-Final.

    [QUOTE=redneckshadrap;485634]I agree about Dieng.if I were Dieng I'd stay one more yr with Pitino...a healthy Blackshear on the other hand...well, he my have been the one to bring out more in Behannen than the coach. Good players respond better to other good players. I look for Siva to be even better if he stays. If this team holds together and no one leaves it could be a long season next yr for anyone who plays them...

    KY,on the other hand, don't know until the last game is played and the newbies come in. Yeah 4-5 guys go to the NBA....4-5 come in to replace them. I doubt there will be another team like this for a while. Look at the first class of thugs. This team is not like that. And that as a fan of UK is what I want.And that as a basketball fan is what I want for the state of Ky...Players that love the game.

    We, both schools, have these players right now, Siva and Darius Miller especially. That is why I think this game will be so special.

    One question....how many players on these teams are actually from KY...Tim???[/QUOTE]

    For Kentucky the only player that gets time is Darius Miller. For Louisville the only one that gets much time is Justice, and he only plays a few minutes a game. The players really have no stake in the rivalry, they do not come to the schools for the name on the Jersey. College basketball has changed dramatically in the last 20 years. Now they go to the school for the coach. This is not the glory days like most of us grew up with.

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    Re: Kentucky. Louisville. National Semi-Final.

    Wow Brian thanks for recapping what the score is the last several years, we had all forgot........................Yawn....

    Calipari is a GREAT recruiter and MANAGER of a team. He strokes ego's better than anybody in the business. Give him 5 guys named Harry and lets see how he does??
    He couldn't actually coach his self out of a dark room when it comes to X's and O's. Just my opinion, but I hate the guy with the burning passion of ten thousand suns so I might be tainted a bit....

    Bob Hugguns took him to coaching class last year and Jim Calhoun did it the year before that. Both years Calipari had WAY superior talent...
    Or was it UConn last year and WV the year before I can't remember now. All I know is ONE five foot something guard sent them packing and then a MUCH less talented WV team did the same. In my opinion it stemmed from coaching. The man has a NBA farm development team every year and he still can't get a trophy...
    Last edited by mhall; 03-28-2012 at 06:44 AM.

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    Re: Kentucky. Louisville. National Semi-Final.

    Quote Originally Posted by mhall View Post
    Wow Brian thanks for recapping what the score is the last several years, we had all forgot........................Yawn....

    Calipari is a GREAT recruiter and MANAGER of a team. He strokes ego's better than anybody in the business. Give him 5 guys named Harry and lets see how he does??
    He couldn't actually coach his self out of a dark room when it comes to X's and O's. Just my opinion, but I hate the guy with the burning passion of ten thousand suns so I might be tainted a bit....

    Bob Hugguns took him to coaching class last year and Jim Calhoun did it the year before that. Both years Calipari had WAY superior talent...
    Or was it UConn last year and WV the year before I can't remember now. All I know is ONE five foot something guard sent them packing and then a MUCH less talented WV team did the same. In my opinion it stemmed from coaching. The man has a NBA farm development team every year and he still can't get a trophy...
    I try to recap the score whenever possible, as long as its for a time period that is favorable to UK. LOL


    And you know I love you Mark...


    I don't disagree with you that Cal got out coached against WV two years ago...and there wasn't anybody stopping Kemba Walker last year...but Cal can coach. That doesn't mean that he doesn't get out coached now and then.


    Hell, Pitino got chicken kicked by Morehead State...but that doesn't mean he can't coach. We all know he can coach against the best of them and win.


    I just hope Saturday's game lives up to the hype! (And that KY wins, of course. )

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    Re: Kentucky. Louisville. National Semi-Final.

    Quote Originally Posted by mhall View Post
    Wow Brian thanks for recapping what the score is the last several years, we had all forgot........................Yawn....

    Calipari is a GREAT recruiter and MANAGER of a team. He strokes ego's better than anybody in the business. Give him 5 guys named Harry and lets see how he does??
    He couldn't actually coach his self out of a dark room when it comes to X's and O's. Just my opinion, but I hate the guy with the burning passion of ten thousand suns so I might be tainted a bit....

    Bob Hugguns took him to coaching class last year and Jim Calhoun did it the year before that. Both years Calipari had WAY superior talent...
    Or was it UConn last year and WV the year before I can't remember now. All I know is ONE five foot something guard sent them packing and then a MUCH less talented WV team did the same. In my opinion it stemmed from coaching. The man has a NBA farm development team every year and he still can't get a trophy...

    As far as Coaching Skills go, both having talent and having no talent, creates problems and challenges for coaches to win. Kentucky's top 7 players were THE MAN at their respective high schools. When it was needed they were looked to deliver the goods. Take as many shots as they want and not worry about getting benched. Take those same 7 and put them on the floor together with all the ego's and blend them into the unit that Kentucky has takes a talented coach. Getting those 7 to buy into defense to where they lead the nation in field goal defense percentage and just set the team record for blocked shots in the History of the NCAA, takes a talented coach. On the other hand, take Louisville and their players, not as highly recruited out of high school but certainly had to show enough talent to get Pitino to offer them a scholarship, takes a talented coach to get them to the Final Four. The game is not necessarily David versus Goliath but certainly David versus several steps above Goliath. Louisville did win the Big East Tourney, winning argueably the best conference in america's tourney. Louisville is ranked in the top 20 in the country, so it is not like they have a team of Bo Lanter, Chris Gettlefinger, Todd Svoboda and Steve Massiello, they do have some talent. Make no mistake, Calipari and Pitino can coach. The same that says Calipari can't win with his talent could be said that Pitino was outcoached in 1997 and should have had 2 titles. Give Pitino the players that Cal has gotten the last 3 seasons and who says he does any more with them than Cal. Getting High School stud athletes, the best of the best, to give up shots, give up playing time, play defense and with the exception of Cousins (who is still a thug), do it with class and respect takes coaching talent.

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