George Zimmerman

[waterdog101]

So what is Zimmerman going to be charged with....the STAND your ground law allowed him to shoot Martin, IF Martin was kicking his butt......

BUT, and a BIG BUT......is the Stand your Ground statute has some ambiguous wording about instigation. If they determine that Zimmerman instigated the confrontation, then I believe Zimmerman may be spending some quality time behind bars.

I personally believe he instigated the contact, got in over his head, GOT his ASS whipped, and then killed someone.......

It is hard to tell though. Very tough determining what really happened, and we may never know.

Later,

Geo

I think the, stand your ground law. is a good one and should be Nation wide. but the 911 call tells who was at fault here, if an unarmed man is walking away from you, I don't see where you are in any danger. no threat there. Zimmerman kept following the guy and that's what caused the whole thing, if only he would have listen to the operator's warning, don't follow the guy. the kid would still be alive. and Zimmerman could still be playing neighborhood lawman. it's sad this had to happen, but what ever happens to Zimmerman, he asked for it.

[SLP]

Who knows the truth, but I thought I read where Zimmerman claims once 911 told him not to follow he stopped.

As far as self defense and stand your ground wouldn't the young man have the right to beat up someone coming at him with a gun? Kind the chicken and the egg thing, Trayvon Martin sees some man coming towards him with a gun it is understandable he might jump on him and beat him feeling his life was in danger. Zimmerman gets jumped by a suspicious character who start beating him so he shoots to defend himself.

This case really is a sad tragic mess. I hope a jury can sort through it all and the truth is revealed.

[GeoFisher]

Who knows the truth, but I thought I read where Zimmerman claims once 911 told him not to follow he stopped.

As far as self defense and stand your ground wouldn't the young man have the right to beat up someone coming at him with a gun? Kind the chicken and the egg thing, Trayvon Martin sees some man coming towards him with a gun it is understandable he might jump on him and beat him feeling his life was in danger. Zimmerman gets jumped by a suspicious character who start beating him so he shoots to defend himself.

This case really is a sad tragic mess. I hope a jury can sort through it all and the truth is revealed.

From what I've read, and who KNOWS if it is true.

* He stopped following him when told. I actually think he was OUT of his truck at this time and headed back to his truck.

* Martin jumped him from behind......according to Zimmerman and eye witness accounts.

* Martin pummeled him. Bashing his head into the ground. According to grass stains on Zimmermans back and Zimmermans account.

* The gun, which was still secured THEN came into play. NO idea how.

* Martin tells Zimmerman he's going to die.........Maybe Martin saw the gun, maybe Zimmerman pulled the gun.

* A shot is fired........Martin is DEAD.

If that is even CLOSE to what happened the arrest is unjust, and the MEDIA biased towards Zimmerman will lead to some serious multi million dollar lawsuits when Zimmerman is acquitted.....

Bottom line.........Someone is going to to get rich. Hell, Martin's "grieving" parents have already trademarked his name and have appeared PAID on numerous programs......

HM.

Later,

Geo

[SLP]

NBC sure owes Zimmerman an apology. Producer altered the 911 tape and by doing so made it sound like it was racially motivated.

The segment in question was shown on the “Today” show on March 27. It included audio of Mr. Zimmerman saying, “This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.”
But Mr. Zimmerman’s comments had been taken grossly out of context by NBC. On the phone with a 911 dispatcher, he actually said of Mr. Martin, “This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.” Then the dispatcher asked, “O.K., and this guy — is he white, black or Hispanic?” Only then did Mr. Zimmerman say, “He looks black.”

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.co...immerman-tape/

[DJD]

NBC sure owes Zimmerman an apology. Producer altered the 911 tape and by doing so made it sound like it was racially motivated.



http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.co...immerman-tape/

Fired?? He should be sued by zimmerman as well as NBC and that person should be arrested for his wrong doing. NBC said it was a mistake?!?!? Really??? After all the play and damage that tape has done and it was a mistake? Good gosh. I wonder how many people have tried to harm this man because of that tape? Zimmerman needs to go through the legal system for his actions but NBC should pay for their careless use and manipulation of information.

[SLP]

Fired?? He should be sued by zimmerman as well as NBC and that person should be arrested for his wrong doing. NBC said it was a mistake?!?!? Really??? After all the play and damage that tape has done and it was a mistake? Good gosh. I wonder how many people have tried to harm this man because of that tape? Zimmerman needs to go through the legal system for his actions but NBC should pay for their careless use and manipulation of information.

I am not certain if he broke any law that he could be prosecuted, but if he did they should throw the book at him.

They should make it a law that you can't edit 911 tapes if you choose to air them and call it the Zimmerman law.

I agree Zimmerman should sue the producer and NBC.

[DJD]

I am not certain if he broke any law that he could be prosecuted, but if he did they should throw the book at him.

They should make it a law that you can't edit 911 tapes if you choose to air them and call it the Zimmerman law.

I agree Zimmerman should sue the producer and NBC.

No doubt man. I don't know the laws well enough but I'm sure someone will look into it.

[kyfanatic]

Fired?? He should be sued by zimmerman as well as NBC and that person should be arrested for his wrong doing. NBC said it was a mistake?!?!? Really??? After all the play and damage that tape has done and it was a mistake? Good gosh. I wonder how many people have tried to harm this man because of that tape? Zimmerman needs to go through the legal system for his actions but NBC should pay for their careless use and manipulation of information.

Exactly,the media and Racist African Americans in this country have made this out to be something it isn't.When Blacks are charged equally in hate crimes for attacking Whites I'll say there is equality.
I can show you a recent case in Virginia where a Teenage White couple where savagely beaten ,Raped,Murdered,and Mutilated by 5 Blacks who admitted hating White People,yet they are not charged under Federal Hate Crimes.

[lilmule]

Have to agree media is using non current photos that make a 17 year old look like a 14,a better pic is of him at a rally wearing a hoodie and much taller and bigger.
As for what happened dunno dont desire to convict him prior to trial,media is sure trying to as well as the african american community.
Personally if legally carrying a gun(this is a carry state with a permit) and someone regardless of color starts pummeling me they gonna get the whole clip.
And if it turns out its a 17 year old punk in a hoodie with a nose ring so be it.
Im 130 lbs sopping wet and know several 16-17 year olds hitting near 200,who in reality know that not much can be done against them,regardless of creed ,color etc.I would waste them all equally without discrimination.9mm semi wad cutters on a 45 frame,if that one dont get ya the other one will.
Its simple treat others as you want to be treated meanwhile dont tread on me
Yeah I know im highly opinionated

[RoadToad]

From what I've read, and who KNOWS if it is true.

* He stopped following him when told. I actually think he was OUT of his truck at this time and headed back to his truck.

* Martin jumped him from behind......according to Zimmerman and eye witness accounts.

* Martin pummeled him. Bashing his head into the ground. According to grass stains on Zimmermans back and Zimmermans account.

* The gun, which was still secured THEN came into play. NO idea how.

* Martin tells Zimmerman he's going to die.........Maybe Martin saw the gun, maybe Zimmerman pulled the gun.

* A shot is fired........Martin is DEAD.

If that is even CLOSE to what happened the arrest is unjust, and the MEDIA biased towards Zimmerman will lead to some serious multi million dollar lawsuits when Zimmerman is acquitted.....

Bottom line.........Someone is going to to get rich. Hell, Martin's "grieving" parents have already trademarked his name and have appeared PAID on numerous programs......

HM.

Later,

Geo

I don't know where you're getting this information, but it's not at all what I've seen/read. The crux of the charges is the fact that he did NOT stop following Martin when he was told to by law enforcement. Instead, he keeps following, saying, "They always get away." Then he goes on and makes sure this one doesn't.

He may not go down for the murder charge, but he will be convicted of something.

[Chubminnow]

This has nothing to do with Zimmerman, but:

All of these white verses black crimes...man I get tired of hearing about it all...I get tired of seeing some black guy caught on tape, struggling with two or three WHITE officers only to have the suspect's family cry and complain about police brutality. Heck...we all know the "African American voice is as loud or louder than that of the Gay/Equal rights voice...not sure what can be done to turn things around or at least equal things out...but check out this bit I found on Wikipedia>>>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders...stopher_Newsom

Two youngin's down in Knoxville, TN...Both the male AND female were brutally raped and murdered by a gang of black thugs...but, guess what? I bet none of you all ever heard about it...I never heard about it either until just today. I wonder why the national news didn't pick up this story and run with it?

I reckon the story to be TRUE...If it's not, then I stand corrected.

[SLP]

I don't know where you're getting this information, but it's not at all what I've seen/read. The crux of the charges is the fact that he did NOT stop following Martin when he was told to by law enforcement. Instead, he keeps following, saying, "They always get away." Then he goes on and makes sure this one doesn't.

He may not go down for the murder charge, but he will be convicted of something.

Actually it appears what you have "seen/read" is incorrect. After reading how NBC edited the tape out of context I was curious to know just what the truth was and searched for the 911 tape to actually listen to it for myself. While Zimmerman does say "they always get away" he said the much earlier in the conversation, and not after he was asked to stop following him. Actually the "following him" portion of the tape sounds to be a very short period of time and then he does say OK when asked not to follow. You can also hear that he stops following because when he was following you could hear the wind (from running) and you could hear he was breathing heavier. It sounds like he then stops and is coordinating with the 911 operator where he is and where he can meet with the officer that was on the way.

It does appear that much of the reporting of this has been inaccurate at best, or purposely slanted at the worst.

Now as far as what happened after the call I don't have a clue. I don't know enough of the facts to form an opinion at this point, but my initial gut feeling after hearing the tape is that second degree murder sounds a little severe. I just hope that the all the evidence and truth comes out at the trial and the jury does it job.

Here is the link to the tape:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNCvr9V2pig