George Zimmerman

[Big Gills]

Gills, I elected to respond to your comments in an open forum, not by private mail nor through Peter, because you posted in an open forum and everyone should see our responses.

Just to set the record straight, as far as I can ascertain it is against the law for a felonious criminal to own guns in the USA. That still won't keep them out of their hands because there are multiple ways they can get them. There is always someone on the street willing to sell them, residential break-ins, thefts, and robberies will also help them to get one. Drug dealers have guns and they can buy them legally if they haven't been charged with a crime; they also do it through exchange of drugs for guns; they are into criminal activity for money, so the guns are sold on the streets.

I took the statement you made about "God forbid you folks should ever have to abide by any rules," and "You folks should be allowed to do whatever you want" as condescending, insulting, and very offensive. It's easy for you to portray Canada as a perfect nation because you think we don't know anything about it; that would be a wrong assumption. By the same token, you haven't spent enough time in the United States, far enough south of the border, to know anything about our people; all you have read and/or seen on TV is most likely sensationalized to get people to read it or watch it on the news. Like you, we are civilized people; not 'you folks' and not a bunch of hillbillies and cavemen.

If Canada was all you want us to think that it is, why were YOU a guard at one of their prisons where only criminals are incarcerated?

Just to clarify I was never a guard at a prison. I was a caseworker/counselling just to get inmates to accepts responsibility for their offences and hopefully direct them into a more prosocial lifestyle. Did that for seven long year. Before that I was a Probation/Parole Officer for 10yrs and then Youth Counsellor for 1 year. Always trying to accomplish the same goal. Of course we have crime in Canada as does every country and city in the world. I never said Canada was perfect but alot if not most of our crime does NOT involve guns. So sorry that you and some of your redneck friends are so sensitive that you cant handle the truth when it is mentioned to you. I mean really get a grip. The US is not perfect either but you folks think it is and it plain naive of you. Get out more and see the world. I sure have and i have spent plenty of time in the states and would be scared to death to live their today.

Dont be concerned as you folks cant handle any other opinions than your own so I wont post here any longer. Thought you were above such pettiness Bugsy but I was wrong. There are some great guys on here and you know who you are so I bid you adieu and you wont have to listen to the ranting of me anymore. Have a nice life. Bye all.

[lilmule]

We are not perfect,but its a basic right here to bear arms ever since we kicked the british out,had it not been so we would still be british subjects.
Part of our constitution.
Agree we have a high crime rate with guns its an imperfect world,but merely having them does not preclude crime or violence with them.An example would be the Swiss who by law require every citizen to have served in the army keep a fully automatic weapon at home,yet few robberies occur with full auto weapons.
It is also one our rights called free speech so your entitled to your opinion,generally within the confines of where one is doing it at.
To prove the point we did it twice once in 1776 and again in 1812.
One american woman dethroned an english king,Wally Simpson,just be glad there wernt two of them.
It isnt a perfect system if you notice the staue of justice she wears a blindfold while balancing the scales,but lacking something perfect she will do.
With the gun laws in england and in canada ive heard horror stores about shotguns and hunting being in danger havnt a clue how true they are some what blown out of porportion by the media so not making any judgements about your country or its laws.But here it is a fundamental right to bear arms.It is not a question of anyones right other than was the shooting right and who knows innocent until proven guilty seems to have been chucked by the media.
People will be people sometimes in the heat of discussion get a lil carried away
One of the things we are picky about is our gun carrying or right to bear arms,so tis easy in that direction to get other opinions.

[parker]

Just to clarify I was never a guard at a prison. I was a caseworker/counselling just to get inmates to accepts responsibility for their offences and hopefully direct them into a more prosocial lifestyle. Did that for seven long year. Before that I was a Probation/Parole Officer for 10yrs and then Youth Counsellor for 1 year. Always trying to accomplish the same goal. Of course we have crime in Canada as does every country and city in the world. I never said Canada was perfect but alot if not most of our crime does NOT involve guns. So sorry that you and some of your redneck friends are so sensitive that you cant handle the truth when it is mentioned to you. I mean really get a grip. The US is not perfect either but you folks think it is and it plain naive of you. Get out more and see the world. I sure have and i have spent plenty of time in the states and would be scared to death to live their today.

Dont be concerned as you folks cant handle any other opinions than your own so I wont post here any longer. Thought you were above such pettiness Bugsy but I was wrong. There are some great guys on here and you know who you are so I bid you adieu and you wont have to listen to the ranting of me anymore. Have a nice life. Bye all.

I for one would rather see you stay. I did not like your post but everyone has an opinion and I can accept yours even though I didnt agree with it. I put my foot in my mouth alot more than you so come back and take a little criticism and life goes on.

[Chubminnow]

I was a caseworker/counselling just to get inmates to accepts responsibility for their offences and hopefully direct them into a more prosocial lifestyle. Before that I was a Probation/Parole Officer for 10yrs and then Youth Counsellor for 1 year. So sorry that you and some of your redneck friends are so sensitive that you cant handle the truth when it is mentioned to you. I mean really get a grip. The US is not perfect either but you folks think it is and it plain naive of you. Dont be concerned as you folks cant handle any other opinions than your own so I wont post here any longer. Thought you were above such pettiness Bugsy but I was wrong. There are some great guys on here and you know who you are so I bid you adieu and you wont have to listen to the ranting of me anymore. Have a nice life. Bye all.

1. Judging by your career it sounds like you've done your fair share of trying to make the world a better place. It takes a special person to do what you were doing...I for one am definitely not cut out for such work...so thanks!

2. Rednecks eh? LOL....That's probably the reason why we're the power house nation that we are in the first place. It ain't that we can't handle the truth, and no we're not naive either...we know this country has plenty of problems, you should know that by reading some of the posts here, people complaining about lack of leadership in the government, etc...it's kind of like a family...sure we may argue and not get along with each other at times, but let an outsider step in and try to do harm to one of our own, then things start getting ugly real quick.

3. Wish I had a dollar for everytime someone got their feelings hurt on this website, lol...heck Gills...why tuck tail and run? Just because something didn't go your way? How lame is that! Or is that what Canadian's do when things don't go their way, tuck tail and run? Bwahahaaaa....

Just kidding...I could careless who posts and who doesn't...stay if you like, or never come back...it's all good either way.

And remember...this is just my own opinion...don't go off, as you mentioned in your post, just "get a grip", lol...

All of this reminds me of some patriotic stickers that were made back in the late 70's/early 80's....when Iran took a couple hundred Americans hostage. It was a cartoonish looking sticker, red, white and blue in color depicting a bald eagle wearing boxing gloves, underneath it read: "Mess with the best, die like the rest".

Later Gills!