I would also throw a sliver in the mix as well. The top water baits, slow and steady making a V in the water. Test the retrieve before it gets dark so you'll know what retrieve to use. Baits like the sliver, two or three hard cranks then slow and steady. If the sliver hits bottom, throw a giz 4. when I fish up to a good point, I pull off and throw a buck tail deeper and further off the bank. If I point hop, I'll start off further back with a buck tail, then come in with the shallow baits. As they said, sometimes you can do everything right and not find them feeding Sometime, you can't do anything wrong and nail em good. Once you do, you're hooked. So be careful what you ask for.. LOL