Thanks for your replies. I have a B&R, action is too light I use what they call a worm rod for spinnerbaits. I also have a Temple Fork Outfitters flipping stick by G. Loomi. I'm not wild about the handle and mine is heavy. I love my Bronzeback too but Loomis doesn't make what I want. No, I won't be confused, I think after 50 yrs. of fishin I will be able to decide. I had it boiled down to a Cara, a Cashion or another H&H but since so many of you like the Cumara I may look at them again. I picked one up but I didn't like the balance. They all feel different when you put the reel on. So by popular demand I will look at them again. Thanks for all of your help.