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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadToad View Post
    And doing all that is going to bring down the price of gas? Of course it's not Bush'e fault, but it's sure not Obama's, either. This problem has been around since long before he came into office, and it will be there long after he's gone.

    Go ahead, blame the Democrats for high gas prices. I'll remember this after the Republicans take over.
    It is funny how folks blamed bush for ALL the oil issues when he was the prez. EVERYONE did.....His big RICH oil friends were causing all the problems.

    Oil companies were getting filthy rich........bla, bla bla.

    I don't quite understand why gas has not dropped more, especially since it is obvious demand around the world is off.

    I suspect there is some gouging going on.

    My post really was more about WHY.....not really posting blame.

    I do suspect gas prices will drop significantly as we move closer to the election though

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadToad View Post
    And doing all that is going to bring down the price of gas? Of course it's not Bush'e fault, but it's sure not Obama's, either. This problem has been around since long before he came into office, and it will be there long after he's gone.

    Go ahead, blame the Democrats for high gas prices. I'll remember this after the Republicans take over.
    Well lets see.........

    * Term limits will eliminate their self serving antics........both sides

    * Getting rid of all lobbying........YOU BET. But then I don't think our form of gubment would work.

    * Congressional Benefits. If the Congress had no benefits, there would be NO REASON to make a lifetime of it.

    * Retirement benefits......again yea.....eliminate them. They serve the people, and if they served for only 4 years, that is a very short period of their working life. How about we prorate their benefits for the 4 YEARS they serve. Better yet, how about we tie them to PERFORMANCE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadToad View Post
    Go ahead, blame the Democrats for high gas prices. I'll remember this after the Republicans take over.
    To be fair the democrat brain trust did blame Bush while he was in office and even when he was gone. So....I blame Obama (with a smirck on my face) as payback.

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/pelo...ow-who-s-blame

    http://money.cnn.com/2004/05/18/news.../gas_politics/

    It's a game being played on us tax payers by the elected officials. It's just the Dems turn!

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    And of course.......this JOKE of an EPA rule has nothing to do with gas prices.......

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...y_hypothetical

    The EPA passed rules that are IMPOSSIBLE for refiners to follow, so instead of relaxing the rules, they use the FAULTY rule to collect fines (taxes) from the refiners......

    Gotta love our gubment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    To be fair the democrat brain trust did blame Bush while he was in office and even when he was gone. So....I blame Obama (with a smirck on my face) as payback....
    Unfortunately, too many folks on both sides of the aisle do the same. So rather that getting anything done each side blames the other and the sheeple line up with their "guy" in blaming the other side. Meanwhile both parties bend us over and we continue to take it. Throw blame when its due, I have no problem, but the manipulation of the true and half-truths being spouted by both side is way past being old. Just listen to the majority of the adds by either of the major presidential candidates and you want to slap them both upside the head.

    As much as I hate to agree with Geo, I do agree with these ideas:

    * Term limits will eliminate their self serving antics........both sides

    * Getting rid of all lobbying........YOU BET. But then I don't think our form of gubment would work.

    * Congressional Benefits. If the Congress had no benefits, there would be NO REASON to make a lifetime of it.

    * Retirement benefits......again yea.....eliminate them. They serve the people, and if they served for only 4 years, that is a very short period of their working life. How about we prorate their benefits for the 4 YEARS they serve. Better yet, how about we tie them to PERFORMANCE.

    Won't do a thing about the gas/oil prices, but will fix plenty of other problems. And while we are at it, reverse the corporations are people crap that the supreme court passed recently. High time that the PEOPLE runned the country, not the corporations.

    Andrew

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    Quote Originally Posted by apb View Post
    High time that the PEOPLE runned the country, not the corporations.
    I agree...but I think things have gone to far and gone on for way to long..doubt it will ever happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apb View Post
    Unfortunately, too many folks on both sides of the aisle do the same. So rather that getting anything done each side blames the other and the sheeple line up with their "guy" in blaming the other side. Meanwhile both parties bend us over and we continue to take it. Throw blame when its due, I have no problem, but the manipulation of the true and half-truths being spouted by both side is way past being old.

    Andrew
    This is exactly my point. The media and dems said it so much people believed it. I'm confident these loes spewed by the dems won them votes. That's all that mattered. It will happen over and over again from both sides. It's funny to see how the dems crawdad away from there statements from years ago in the media now.
    Many on here did the same thing. I'm sure they knew better but it was a jab during one of the many discussions.
    Washington is corrupt, we all know that, but when one smooth talking candidate shows up people think things are gonna "change".
    The country needs a real leader not some unqualified candidate with no proven record of doing anything.

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    Under 3 in Alabama.

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    seriously, this has nothing to do with the US being in it's high season for driving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    ...The country needs a real leader not some unqualified candidate with no proven record of doing anything.
    Hopefully we'll get one of those sometime before its too late.

    Andrew

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    If gas was mandated to be sold at no more than $1.50 a gallon, wouldn't it mean that: (I know impossible but....)

    1. People would have more money to spend on other stuff, adding fuel to the economy as more goods might be bought.
    2. When goods are bought, more state sales taxes are paid, so states would get more from consumers and need less from the fed budget. Manufacturers would earn more, profit more, and so pay more into fed and state taxes helping both levels with more income to reduce deficits.
    3. People would travel more, and so add more miles to their car, so it would get old faster, and they'd buy a new one sooner that would probably be more efficient, ergo, less gas used, and more environmentally friendly.
    4. Why not encourage folks to use more gas, and drive since we mandate low emmission fuels and the govt also sets better, cleaner auto pollution standards all the time. When people drive, they put money in the economy.

    I just don't get the Obama thought that higher gas prices will force us all to buy ecologically friendly cars. When was the last time you saw a plumber, carpenter, painter, HVAC, or electric repairman show up in a Chevy Volt 1/2 Pickup Truck or Van? When was the last time you saw someone towing a boat with a Prius?

    Hey Obama.....does Caterpillar offer a hybrid bulldozer??????? Ya think that might slow construction down a bit?

    I mean really, based on horsepower and torque, I'd need 4 Prius's to tow my boat all harnessed up as a pull team. :-)

    How long before Obama mandates HYBRID OUTBOARD engines, part internal combustion and part trolling motor.

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