Obamacare...........does it bother you that the mandate and penalty are now a TAX??

[GeoFisher]

What is sad about the SCOTUS and their decision today to UPHOLD Obamacare is the following:

The house and senate voted down the Affordable Care Act when the original bill called the penalty a "tax". Then when the SCOTUS started to hear the case, the Solicitor General argued the PENALTY as in fact a tax.

My friends.........a GREAT FRAUD has be perpetrated on the people of the United States. Our elected officials would have NEVER passed the Affordable Care Act had it been called a tax from the beginning.

Obama and the Democrats didn't win anything today.

Americans, Future Americans, and those that fought and DIED for our principals lost....I'm ashamed of the way this bill was shoved down our throat and how the very tenet of HOW to pay for it was changed in the last hour.

Later,

Geo

[SLP]

I am wondering how long it will take until someone proposes a tax on things like not recycling, not properly setting our air or heat at the designated temperatures, or eating too much sugar etc?

[GeoFisher]

I am wondering how long it will take until someone proposes a tax on things like not recycling, not properly setting our air or heat at the designated temperatures, or eating too much sugar etc?

this is a huge precedent to be setting.......HUGE.

Federal gubment can tax us for ANYTHING.

Tax me for not eating tofu.
Tax me for not buying a cafe standard car.
Tax me for not putting EPA mandated S.E.A.R 18 furnace in my house.
Tax me for dropping my thermostat to 72 instead of 75.
Tax me for .............

The FEDERAL government did not call it a tax. DID NOT CALL IT A TAX..........

My head is about to explode.......

[GeoFisher]

oops........wrong place.

[eddie_m]

The SCOTUS should have legislated from the bench. Dam you, SCOTUS!!!

[GeoFisher]

The SCOTUS should have legislated from the bench. Dam you, SCOTUS!!!

I blame Bush............

Finally something we can ACTUALLY blame on him.......Roberts was his appointment...

Actually, after reading the opinion......and what it is based on, I believe Roberts made the right decision.

I still think he chose to change the wording, and by doing so, it changed the dynamics. But from my understanding, since this is now a TAX, and not subjected to the commerce clause, a simple majority in the Senate can shoot it down.

This baby is far from over.........which inherently ***** even more. I want to BE done with it.

Later,

Geo

[RoadToad]

I just hope that when it's repealed, it gets replaced with something that that is actually BETTER. I know a lot of you are going to be quick to say, "Well, it couldn't be worse!" I say you have too much faith in our Congress if you truly believe that.

[GeoFisher]

I just hope that when it's repealed, it gets replaced with something that that is actually BETTER. I know a lot of you are going to be quick to say, "Well, it couldn't be worse!" I say you have too much faith in our Congress if you truly believe that.

Here is an interesting read.

http://www.reddit.com/tb/vbkfm



I particularly like the comments and hypothetical cases that are posed by "real" people in the comments section of the post.

INTERESTING.........very INTERESTING.

Later,

Geo

[know1]

It shouldn't even be called ObamaCARE. It should be called ObamaSURANCE.

I don't understand how so many people in this country equate health insurance with health CARE. They are not the same thing.

The existence of health insurance - particularly as supplied by employers - is one of the biggest reasons we're in this mess. You can't solve a problem by adding more of the problem to it.