Gun Control

[Aquaman]

Exactly.

My point exactly.

I used to have a printing supplier that was located in that "over the rind" area of Cincy and would go up there from time to time. I've been a lot of places and that, in my opinion, may be one of the worst. Not only would I carry a handgun, but I'd probably strap on a belt-fed machine gun and a belt of ammunition like Rambo did, just in case. That place is hell.

We have a warehouse in Memphis and at one point years ago, the zip code it sat in was the 2nd highest murder rate per capita in the US. I was there early one morning and a couple of the sales guys came in, sat down, unholstered their pistols and put them in their desk drawers. Then, they saw me, and their eyes got big...afraid that I was going to bust them for breaking the "No Firearms on Company Premises" rule.

I just laughed and said "Relax, boys...I might even be carrying one myself."

I worked for one of the General Contractors doing a lot of the renovations going on in OTR. I spent A LOT of time down there in condemned buildings and dark alleys by myself... every time we were getting ready to start a new job and had to show the investors/owners the starting conditions we would have to show up a hour early to clear out all of the buildings "inhabitants" talk about a sh**y job! I could tell stories for hours on some of the things I've seen down there... from gang beatings to rich white guys picking up ladies of the night! Our company did have a no firearms policy... as to the enforement of that rule I won't comment.

[bassin_bug]

that sure is a lot of assumptions.

There are so many ambiguities in the law, I'm thinking this is not the case.

BUT I understand your point. I just don't think it is any close that THAT clear.

That is how our sheriff explained it to me the day he issued my CCW permit. He has a fantastic background with degrees in criminal justice and law enforcement and has spent about 35 years working in several different agencies including the military.
The only thing I "assumend" was that he knew what he was talking about.

I'm always willing to learn and correct my mistakes.

[Whitebass]

Great info ty all who responded to the info request for the CCW.

[RoadToad]

I understand what you're saying KY, and I know a TON of people who pay no attention to those signs, except govt buildings.

I don't know the legal ramifications of ignoring the wishes of a private building owner though. Is is just trespassing or something else.

It's not even trespassing, it's a civil matter, settled by you leaving the premises. The difference for government buildings and the like is that there is a law saying you can't carry a weapon there. There's no law saying you can't carry a weapon into a theater, and the proprietor posting a sign saying "No Firearms" or something like that doesn't mean he has thereby passed a piece of legislation making it illegal. Now, if they ask you to leave, and you refuse, THEN it might be trespassing, but I think the charge would probably be disorderly conduct... I don't know.

And believe it or not, the same is true of a lot of illegal immigration. Something I just learned recently, that I thought was interesting, (and I'll bet the rest of this board does to!) is that the people who come into this country legally, but stay longer than their visa allows, or basically NEVER leave, aren't in violation of ANY CRIMINAL STATUTE. It's entirely a civil matter, settled when they leave the country.

[Aquaman]

to disarm the people - that was the best and most effectual way to enslave
them."
(George Mason)

"No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
(Thomas Jefferson)

Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other
terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American... The
unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state
government, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the
people"
(Tench Coxe)

"The Constitution shall never be construed....to prevent the people of the United
States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms"
(Samuel Adams)

But then again I guess we really don't care what they have to say... what have they ever done for this county...

[kyfanatic]

A little CCW story,My company was general contractor on the University of Cincinnati Medical Science Buildings renovation,which is close to University and Childrens hospitals in Cincy.For anyone that doesn't know they are nice hospitals in one of the worst crime ridden areas in Cincinnati.
I opened the job for sub-contractors every morning at 4:00 am and living 45 miles away had to travel through this area at the wee hours of the morning,we were informed by UC that not only were weapons not allowed on site,but anyone caught with a weapon in their vehicle would be permanently removed from the job.Being the good citizen I am,I left my .38 S&W at home.
One morning while sitting at the traffic light at the intersection of Burnett Avenue and Oak Street in Cincy,a Black male came running at my drivers side of my truck waving a pistol and speaking crackheadian,on impulse I stomped on it and drove through the redlight,I kept waiting for the shot,but it never came.A month later the same guy killed someone in a car jacking a block from there,I ID'd him.
We had no onsite parking and had to park a minimum of 3 to 4 blocks away,sometimmes farther if you weren't early,one morning three black guys in their 20's started following me up the street,and the only thing that saved me was a Children's Hospital Security Guard that happened to drive around the corner,because they turned and ran when they saw him.After that I started packing my piece regardless of laws,damned if I was going to get killed for trying to work.

[MrSplitshot]

A little CCW story,My company was general contractor on the University of Cincinnati Medical Science Buildings renovation,which is close to University and Childrens hospitals in Cincy.For anyone that doesn't know they are nice hospitals in one of the worst crime ridden areas in Cincinnati.
I opened the job for sub-contractors every morning at 4:00 am and living 45 miles away had to travel through this area at the wee hours of the morning,we were informed by UC that not only were weapons not allowed on site,but anyone caught with a weapon in their vehicle would be permanently removed from the job.Being the good citizen I am,I left my .38 S&W at home.
One morning while sitting at the traffic light at the intersection of Burnett Avenue and Oak Street in Cincy,a Black male came running at my drivers side of my truck waving a pistol and speaking crackheadian,on impulse I stomped on it and drove through the redlight,I kept waiting for the shot,but it never came.A month later the same guy killed someone in a car jacking a block from there,I ID'd him.
We had no onsite parking and had to park a minimum of 3 to 4 blocks away,sometimmes farther if you weren't early,one morning three black guys in their 20's started following me up the street,and the only thing that saved me was a Children's Hospital Security Guard that happened to drive around the corner,because they turned and ran when they saw him.After that I started packing my piece regardless of laws,damned if I was going to get killed for trying to work.

Exactly.

My point exactly.

I used to have a printing supplier that was located in that "over the rind" area of Cincy and would go up there from time to time. I've been a lot of places and that, in my opinion, may be one of the worst. Not only would I carry a handgun, but I'd probably strap on a belt-fed machine gun and a belt of ammunition like Rambo did, just in case. That place is hell.

We have a warehouse in Memphis and at one point years ago, the zip code it sat in was the 2nd highest murder rate per capita in the US. I was there early one morning and a couple of the sales guys came in, sat down, unholstered their pistols and put them in their desk drawers. Then, they saw me, and their eyes got big...afraid that I was going to bust them for breaking the "No Firearms on Company Premises" rule.

I just laughed and said "Relax, boys...I might even be carrying one myself."

[DJD]

Something I just learned recently, that I thought was interesting, (and I'll bet the rest of this board does to!) is that the people who come into this country legally, but stay longer than their visa allows, or basically NEVER leave, aren't in violation of ANY CRIMINAL STATUTE. It's entirely a civil matter, settled when they leave the country.

That is surprising. Settled IF and when they leave the country? They can't be made to leave? Even if they broke the law? Really?