Gun Control

[kyfanatic]

If more people had CCW in that Colorado theater,less would have been killed.

No country with armed citizens has ever been taken over by an oppressive government like Obama's plans.

[GeoFisher]

If more people had CCW in that Colorado theater,less would have been killed.

No country with armed citizens has ever been taken over by an oppressive government like Obama's plans.

Not really.......they had one of those silly signs saying "no guns allowed".

I wonder HOW many people in that theater left their carry weapon IN their car......and I doubt that story will ever be told.

Later,

Geo

[kyfanatic]

Not really.......they had one of those silly signs saying "no guns allowed".

I wonder HOW many people in that theater left their carry weapon IN their car......and I doubt that story will ever be told.

Later,

Geo

A theater is not a school,hospital,or Govt building

[GeoFisher]

A theater is not a school,hospital,or Govt building

I understand what you're saying KY, and I know a TON of people who pay no attention to those signs, except govt buildings.

I don't know the legal ramifications of ignoring the wishes of a private building owner though. Is is just trespassing or something else.

Bottom Line. I HATE the freakin gun laws and the ambiguity associated with all the rules, sub rules, sub sub rules, etc, etc.

It is MY RIGHT as an American to carry where EVER I want........but on the flipside, it is also the right of the private land owner to say NO YOU CANT.

HM.

Later,

Geo

[MrSplitshot]

I don't know the legal ramifications of ignoring the wishes of a private building owner though. Is is just trespassing or something else.

The way I look at it, excluding government buildings and airports, is that the only way I'm going to find out the legal ramifications of carrying against their corporate policy is if I've had to use my firearm to protect my life.

In such case, I'll face the music.

I'd rather be alive and face some kind of consequence from a private building owner because I carried my weapon against the instructions of their little sign, than dead because I left my gun in the truck.

My company has a "no concealed weapons on company premises" policy in our employee handbook. The only way I'm going to find out what the ramifications of that policy are is if some crazed gunman busts into my office and I defend my life.

Are you going to fire me because I broke a company policy in the act of defending my life? If so, I'll just have to be OK with that.

In the case of the theater shooting, I'm not sure anyone would have stopped that guy in body armor with a carry weapon...odds are that they wouldn't have unless they were highly trained on how to handle combat in a stressful environment...but there would have at least been the odd chance. It's better than sitting there hoping you were lucky and he didn't hit you.

[DJD]

The way I look at it, excluding government buildings and airports, is that the only way I'm going to find out the legal ramifications of carrying against their corporate policy is if I've had to use my firearm to protect my life.

In such case, I'll face the music.

I'd rather be alive and face some kind of consequence from a private building owner because I carried my weapon against the instructions of their little sign, than dead because I left my gun in the truck.

My company has a "no concealed weapons on company premises" policy in our employee handbook. The only way I'm going to find out what the ramifications of that policy are is if some crazed gunman busts into my office and I defend my life.

Are you going to fire me because I broke a company policy in the act of defending my life? If so, I'll just have to be OK with that.

In the case of the theater shooting, I'm not sure anyone would have stopped that guy in body armor with a carry weapon...odds are that they wouldn't have unless they were highly trained on how to handle combat in a stressful environment...but there would have at least been the odd chance. It's better than sitting there hoping you were lucky and he didn't hit you.

I agree with this^^^^ I have taken several road trips through states in the Northeast who do not recognize Kentucky CCDW laws but I carried anyway. Breaking down on the road in the middle of the night could be bad and I want to be prepared.

Taking hikes with my daughter or girlfriend means I'm usually packing a .380... Not only for our safety from idiots looking for trouble but anything like a rabid dog, coyote or bear. ATV riding I'm sporting my .38 snubby revolver since it's bound to get dusty and they are way more reliable than semi-auto's in that environment and most of my riding buddies carried pistols. Never told them I was packing a pistol and then one day we just started talking about it...come to find out we had a .40 cal, .9mm and my .38 in the group. We all laughed about it since we didn't know each-other had pistols in our packs. Motorcycle riding means I take Mr Kimber of the .45 cal family with me...again if I break down or one of my buddies do, anyone left on the roadside needs to have options. At work I have a little .380 in my briefcase.

[bassin_bug]

I understand what you're saying KY, and I know a TON of people who pay no attention to those signs, except govt buildings.

I don't know the legal ramifications of ignoring the wishes of a private building owner though. Is is just trespassing or something else.

Bottom Line. I HATE the freakin gun laws and the ambiguity associated with all the rules, sub rules, sub sub rules, etc, etc.

It is MY RIGHT as an American to carry where EVER I want........but on the flipside, it is also the right of the private land owner to say NO YOU CANT.

HM.

Later,

Geo

I believe that if you have a CCW permit, a private business owner doesn't have the right to search you. If you get caught going through a metal detector and are detained, he has to call the police who have to honor your CCW in their state. It also has to be honored if their state has a reciprocal agreement with another issuing state. I realize the rules change if you are entering a bank, school, government building, airport, etc.

[GeoFisher]

I believe that if you have a CCW permit, a private business owner doesn't have the right to search you. If you get caught going through a metal detector and are detained, he has to call the police who have to honor your CCW in their state. It also has to be honored if their state has a reciprocal agreement with another issuing state. I realize the rules change if you are entering a bank, school, government building, airport, etc.

that sure is a lot of assumptions.

There are so many ambiguities in the law, I'm thinking this is not the case.

BUT I understand your point. I just don't think it is any close that THAT clear.

[Whitebass]

question here, who do I contact about obtaining a ccw...I would like info on how I go about doing this the legal way for myself and my father....Since there has been so much talk about the Topic of CCW's in this thread, I would think some of you are very knowledgeable on the subject...

ty for your time and effort on the matter in advance.....

Whitebass

[MrSplitshot]

The first thing you need to do is find a certified Kentucky CCDW instructor and take a required training class. A good place to start with that is a gun shop, as most of them either offer the classes or know exactly where to point you. I'm pretty sure that Open Range up in Crestwood holds classes, for example.

You'll spend a few hours taking a class....watching videos, listening to an instructor, and taking a written test. Then you will be required to shoot a man-sized target at 7 yards and get a passing score. (I can't remember what that required score is exactly, but it's so many shots anywhere in the black out of so many attempts.) Let's put it this way - If you can't pass the shooting portion, you don't need to carry a firearm. (It's really easy.)

Once you get your certificate from passing the course, you will take it to your Sheriff and apply for your permit. They will do background checks, look for unpaid child support, etc. If all of that clears, you'll have your permit. Take a few weeks to get it back.

Good luck!

[DJD]

Yep seems like I paid $75 for the CCDW class and then once I passed I had to write two more checks. One to the State Police back ground check and one to the county clerk? I think all costs ended up around $135-$150?

[BuckeyeAl]

This pretty much says it all.