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[Hlleonard]

I grew up UNION........Trust me I could fill a book with crap about unions and union members. I have family members who have screwed the system for years. I have family members who have gone to work drunk and been saved by the UNION.

I know ALL I need to know about unions. Teamsters and the UAW have ruined this country....

And for the record.....no one deserves a fair wage.....you EARN what you EARN. If you want more, get another job....For years, I worked multiple jobs to help pay for the extras I wanted. 50 hrs for my current job, and sometimes 20-30 hours at a side job. I put 50% down on my first house by working 5 years at a side job.

Later,

Geo

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Mr Fisher I am happy for you, however you live in a country that was made a great place to live and raise a family because of fair wages in the last half of the last century and regardless of whether or not you wish to live in a country where half the population goes to bed hungry, I personally do not wish to be your neighbor in that country... There are lots of folks grateful that you and folks like you are not and hopefully will never be in charge of deciding what kind of country we have.... This country is a great country in spite of folks like you.

[GeoFisher]

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Mr Fisher I am happy for you, however you live in a country that was made a great place to live and raise a family because of fair wages in the last half of the last century and regardless of whether or not you wish to live in a country where half the population goes to bed hungry, I personally do not wish to be your neighbor in that country... There are lots of folks grateful that you and folks like you are not and hopefully will never be in charge of deciding what kind of country we have.... This country is a great country in spite of folks like you.

What you mean folks like me who WORK hard for what I have.....Save for a rainy day......and TAKE responsibility for myself....

Yea, folks like me are definitely the problem.

Yep.

* We now live in a country that rewards people not to work.
* We now live in a country where there are MORE taking from food stamps than NOT taking from food stamps.
* We now live in a country where people are rewarded for popping out kids they cannot afford.
* We now live in a country where single parenthood is ENCOURAGED and embraced.
* We now live in a country where people are given "earned income" for not striving for success.
* We now live in a country where the president and his ag department ENCOURAGE people to **** off the tit of gubment.
* We now live in a country where protecting the rights of illegals trumps the rights of Americans.

Yea.......THAT sure is the future America I want.

Finally, I'm not completely against unions. Hell, I'd probably embrace them if they were willing to RECOGNIZE the benefits and retirement packages of yesteryear are a thing of the past.

With that being said, I've always believed and will continue to believe that multi tiered pay/benefits/retirement are necessary in the unions. Retirees and folks currently the the "system" should GET what they were promised. The UAW "owes" my parents their retirement, healthcare, and benefits because they were PROMISED that.

BUT......all future contracts and negotiations need to recognize those levels of retirement , healthcare, and benefits are simply not sustainable, and something else must be done.

I don't know the answers there, but it makes me FURIOUS to think the UAW squandered benefits from GM when GM spun off the pensions a few years ago......Now I'm paying the retirees because the UNION screwed the pooch.

I should also say......my mom was conveniently "negotiated" out of her pension benefits and healthcare. She's been fighting for them for nearly 5 years now. The UNION decided to make concessions and SCREWED retirees completely. Yea, they sure were looking out for those that worked for 30 years.......YEP. Wonderful unions.

Later,

Geo

[Hlleonard]

What you mean folks like me who WORK hard for what I have.....Save for a rainy day......and TAKE responsibility for myself....

Yea, folks like me are definitely the problem.

Yep.

* We now live in a country that rewards people not to work.
* We now live in a country where there are MORE taking from food stamps than NOT taking from food stamps.
* We now live in a country where people are rewarded for popping out kids they cannot afford.
* We now live in a country where single parenthood is ENCOURAGED and embraced.
* We now live in a country where people are given "earned income" for not striving for success.
* We now live in a country where the president and his ag department ENCOURAGE people to **** off the tit of gubment.
* We now live in a country where protecting the rights of illegals trumps the rights of Americans.

Yea.......THAT sure is the future America I want.

Finally, I'm not completely against unions. Hell, I'd probably embrace them if they were willing to RECOGNIZE the benefits and retirement packages of yesteryear are a thing of the past.

With that being said, I've always believed and will continue to believe that multi tiered pay/benefits/retirement are necessary in the unions. Retirees and folks currently the the "system" should GET what they were promised. The UAW "owes" my parents their retirement, healthcare, and benefits because they were PROMISED that.

BUT......all future contracts and negotiations need to recognize those levels of retirement , healthcare, and benefits are simply not sustainable, and something else must be done.

I don't know the answers there, but it makes me FURIOUS to think the UAW squandered benefits from GM when GM spun off the pensions a few years ago......Now I'm paying the retirees because the UNION screwed the pooch.

I should also say......my mom was conveniently "negotiated" out of her pension benefits and healthcare. She's been fighting for them for nearly 5 years now. The UNION decided to make concessions and SCREWED retirees completely. Yea, they sure were looking out for those that worked for 30 years.......YEP. Wonderful unions.

Later,

Geo

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Like I said in another post, I find things in the union that are despicable but throwing the baby out with the bath water just isn't the answer... If I sounded like I accused you of being unpatriotic earlier (after reading it it sounded like that to me too) I apologize.... You have a nice evening.