Mitt Romney vs. Stubborn Facts

[RoadToad]

I'm not posting this to try and convince anybody, just to show you Republicans how we Democrats perceive your candidate.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/27/opinion/brazile-romney-bain/index.html

[GeoFisher]

I'm not posting this to try and convince anybody, just to show you Republicans how we Democrats perceive your candidate.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/27/opinion/brazile-romney-bain/index.html

There is something there........I don't know what it it.....

I'm worried about how the Bain stuff works out, but let me be CLEAR......that is a non issue to me. NON ISSUE. The left wants to make a huge deal out of the outsourcing, yet no one seems one bit interested in the current and continued policies surrounding H1-B and all the Indian outsourcing that continues today.

Or the major elephant in the room.......Illegals...

I tell you what, I would LOVE for the Obama camp to start releasing records on his education. Maybe, just Maybe Romney is holding is tax information as a "trump card". It SURE would be damaging for Obama if Romney in a debate says I will give you 1 year of tax information for 1 YEAR of enrollment records, STARTING with Occidental.

Yea, baby.......

[RoadToad]

To me it's not the outsourcing. It's the fact that all this time, he's been saying that, despite being the CEO, president, and sole stockholder in the company, he's had no involvement with the day-to-day activity at Bain since 1999, but now "The AP reported this week that Romney stayed in "regular contact" with Bain during his so-called absence, "personally signing or approving a series of corporate and legal documents through the spring of 2001." Several sources are now saying that Romney made repeated trips to Boston to meet with Bain executives during this period, even though he recently told CBS's Jan Crawford that he doesn't "recall even coming back once to go to a Bain or a management meeting" during the period in question." He's being dishonest.

Also, he NEEDS to release his tax returns. And that's another area where he needs to get his fact straight.

"John McCain ran for president and released two years of tax returns. John Kerry ran for president; you know, his wife, who has hundreds of millions of dollars, she never released her tax returns. Somehow this wasn’t an issue.” — Mitt Romney, on Fox News, July 16, 2012

He's been using Kerry's wife as an excuse for a while now, but that's a LIE. It WAS an issue. It was a BIG issue. Because the REPUBLICANS made it one! Apparently Mitt has a short memory:

http://www.boston.com/politicalintel...nXK/story.html

And let me be clear. It's not that I expect there to be some bombshell in his tax returns. I expect they would show a guy making a huge amount of money, and they may show him paying a pretty low tax rate. Those were the tax rates in place at the time, so there's no faulting him for that. He keeps saying that attacking that is "attacking success," well, if that's how he feels, he needs to OWN that and release those returns. McCain was the exception. Other than him, every candidate to run against an incumbent since 1988 has released many years of tax returns
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...unpW_blog.html

When he refuses to release his, it just makes him LOOK like he's hiding something, whether he is or not, and that's not good.

[GeoFisher]

To me it's not the outsourcing. It's the fact that all this time, he's been saying that, despite being the CEO, president, and sole stockholder in the company, he's had no involvement with the day-to-day activity at Bain since 1999, but now "The AP reported this week that Romney stayed in "regular contact" with Bain during his so-called absence, "personally signing or approving a series of corporate and legal documents through the spring of 2001." Several sources are now saying that Romney made repeated trips to Boston to meet with Bain executives during this period, even though he recently told CBS's Jan Crawford that he doesn't "recall even coming back once to go to a Bain or a management meeting" during the period in question." He's being dishonest.

Also, he NEEDS to release his tax returns. And that's another area where he needs to get his fact straight.

"John McCain ran for president and released two years of tax returns. John Kerry ran for president; you know, his wife, who has hundreds of millions of dollars, she never released her tax returns. Somehow this wasn’t an issue.” — Mitt Romney, on Fox News, July 16, 2012

He's been using Kerry's wife as an excuse for a while now, but that's a LIE. It WAS an issue. It was a BIG issue. Because the REPUBLICANS made it one! Apparently Mitt has a short memory:

http://www.boston.com/politicalintel...nXK/story.html

And let me be clear. It's not that I expect there to be some bombshell in his tax returns. I expect they would show a guy making a huge amount of money, and they may show him paying a pretty low tax rate. Those were the tax rates in place at the time, so there's no faulting him for that. He keeps saying that attacking that is "attacking success," well, if that's how he feels, he needs to OWN that and release those returns. McCain was the exception. Other than him, every candidate to run against an incumbent since 1988 has released many years of tax returns
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...unpW_blog.html

When he refuses to release his, it just makes him LOOK like he's hiding something, whether he is or not, and that's not good.

All that, and not a word about the Obama's and their deception..........Like I said. Maybe Romney is holding out to use that info as LEVERAGE. It would not surprise me. We know a whole hell of a lot less about Obama even after 4 years than we know a about Romney.

[RoadToad]

Right, nothing about Obama at all... because I was discussing Romney. Which seems impossible to do on this board, because the subject immediately switches back to Obama. Don't you guys even want to evaluate Romney at all? If not, that's your choice, but don't expect the voters of this country to buy a pig in a poke. Candidates who refuse to release information have a poor record come election day.

[GeoFisher]

Right, nothing about Obama at all... because I was discussing Romney. Which seems impossible to do on this board, because the subject immediately switches back to Obama. Don't you guys even want to evaluate Romney at all? If not, that's your choice, but don't expect the voters of this country to buy a pig in a poke. Candidates who refuse to release information have a poor record come election day.

Lets see............

Romney......ran a state..........successfully.
Romney......ran the olympics........successfully.
Romney......ran Bain Capital..........successfully.

Obama........ran NOTHING.......successfully.

Yea, I like my chances with Romney.

Later,

Geo

[kyfanatic]

Please Libs,show me one large corporation that you use in your daily life that hasn't/still does outsource jobs offshore? I don't care if Bain Capital did,you know why? Because 6 years ago I said I was going to make a list of all companies that outsourced jobs offshore and start a boycott,well guess what? I would have had to live with no telephone of any kind,no electric service,no bank account,no television,no store bought personal care products,no automobile,no farm equipment,no clothes,etc,etc,etc
So the big Lib dig on Romney is outsourcing jobs and tax shelters for his wealth,never mind the fact that the man ACTUALLY WORKED TO BUILD HIS WEALTH unlike some left wing people,never mind that you won't find one out of 10 million multi-millionaires that don't use offshore banks and investments to shelter part of their money,because if you don't the bloodsucking leeches in this country will **** it out of you yearly and spend it on things like the current president did with stimulus money,you know,outsourced jobs in foreign countries,failed green energy companies,kickbacks to his buddies and to African-Americans,call me racist,but I'm white.I believe in equality,not special treatment for Blacks because of some BS that I had no part in.
I sent a letter to Rome,because the Romans enslaved my people in Northern England and Scotland for over 400 years and I still haven't received my reparation money........................still haven't heard back from them,yet.

[Aquaman]

HA Romney holding out on tax returns!!! treason I tell you! cruicify him! I bet he is hiding money made from millions of guns sold to mexican drug lords that killed AMERICAN citizens (and still are)! ... hey wait a second I think thats been done before? I just can't remember who would be evil enough to do something like that... actively cover it up... and not go to jail for it. Can anyone help me out here? its right on the tip of my tongue I swear...

[Mean Morone]

I'm not saying who I am voting for. I just know I'm not voting for a communist. I'll take Freedom and Liberty every time.

[kyfanatic]

HA Romney holding out on tax returns!!! treason I tell you! cruicify him! I bet he is hiding money made from millions of guns sold to mexican drug lords that killed AMERICAN citizens (and still are)! ... hey wait a second I think thats been done before? I just can't remember who would be evil enough to do something like that... actively cover it up... and not go to jail for it. Can anyone help me out here? its right on the tip of my tongue I swear...

Now what kind of person would give guns and money to Mexican Drug Cartels to kill Americans with? Or for that matter.what kind of president would put a corrupt individual as Attorney General? A Tax Evader as Head of Revenue? An obese,unhealthy person as Surgeon General,and force a Socialist Healthcare Bill down our throats that taxes to death the already over-taxed middle class,yet exempt himself because he smokes? Call them all Tsars like Russian warlords,waste all the stimulus money alloted by congress to alleviate unemployment and poor economy on foreign companies and special interest groups that get WAY More than their share even though they only make up 12.3% of the US population (otherwise known as African-Americans),what happened to helping the majority of Americans?

[RoadToad]

Guys, I KNOW you hate Obama, and you're going to vote for Romney! I get it! That is entirely IRRELEVANT to this. All I'm saying is, not everybody decided months or years ago who which party they were going to vote for, and if Romney is going to win this election, he has to go after those who hadn't, and when it looks to people like he's trying to hide something, like when he and John McCain are the only two candidates in the past 24 years to refuse to release more than two years of income tax returns, well, he's not winning over a whole lot folks. It's really hard not to compare him to his father, who released 12 years of returns when he ran for president, saying that "one year might be a fluke."

[waterdog101]

Lets see............

Romney......ran a state..........successfully.
Romney......ran the olympics........successfully.
Romney......ran Bain Capital..........successfully.

Obama........ran NOTHING.......successfully.

Yea, I like my chances with Romney.

Later,

Geo

releasing tax returns, can be dangerous for a rich politician. like former Republican President Nixon, have you ever read what a crook Nixon was, when he filed his taxes.The revelation that Nixon had paid less than $6,000 in federal income tax while earning more than $790,000 of aggregate income during 1970, 1971, and 1972 caused a public outcry