Papa John's Pizza and healthcare

[Whitebass]

Papa John can't lose, healthcare for 35 million more Americans. a healthy America will eat more pizza, and there's none better than Papa Johns.

I have to disagree with your post...I have tasted almost every type of pizza in Ky. and about 15 different Pizza joints from here to Florida up to MI.....

The best Pizza I have ever tasted is the ones they make at Chubby Ray's Pizza in Jeffersontown, Ky...The overall Italian taste is just so mouthwatering and I could eat that pizza every day of the week it seems if I had a choice of only eating Pizza's for the rest of my life......

[Chubminnow]

I can't believe anyone believes the Obamacare thing will be "given" to anyone...how many times in your life has any of you been "given" anything? Not many times has anyone given me anything...mom and dad paid for a $300.00 dollar paint job on my car for graduating high school...seriously, that's the last time I can remember being "given" anything.

I'm getting tired of waiting to see who Romney running mate will be...He already knows, you know he does...there's a deal being worked out right now, with someone, somewhere.

[DJD]

I can't believe anyone believes the Obamacare thing will be "given" to anyone.

So true but the folks he and his bosses target will believe that. Obamacare will grow money and spread it to everyone free of charge. Folks who work for a living will end up footing the bill. Instead of actually fixing more of the existing system..... they did what anyone who wants power did and lied through their teeth and never actually fixed anything. I think we have witnessed the biggest scam job ever done to citizens of the united states.

Heck Gubment Motors will prolly have a line item on their window sales tag showing the obamacare option! One year free obamacare office visits if you buy the telepromter window display option.

[waterdog101]

I have to disagree with your post...I have tasted almost every type of pizza in Ky. and about 15 different Pizza joints from here to Florida up to MI.....

The best Pizza I have ever tasted is the ones they make at Chubby Ray's Pizza in Jeffersontown, Ky...The overall Italian taste is just so mouthwatering and I could eat that pizza every day of the week it seems if I had a choice of only eating Pizza's for the rest of my life......

my friend, when I said none better. that was just a way of saying it was good. and it is, but I have only tasted about 5 different kinds of pizza. but any that are better than Papa Johns, I hope someday to get a slice to try.

[eddie_m]

First, the best pizza is at Papalino's in Louisville.

Second, I pay the worker's comp bills for a huge employer in Louisville. Every bill is written down by the worker's comp insurance company to about a third. In other words, if you sprain your shoulder, the hospital charges $24,000 but the insurance company negotiates that down to $7,500. If you have no insurance (self-insured), you get screwed beyond all measure. There's a reason they are building new hospitals with giant chandeliers in the lobby.

I think the Obamacare debate has misplaced this debate. Virtually every pension went bankrupt due to skyrocketing health care costs. Every government is slashing drastically due to high health care costs (good or bad). Every worker pays more every year for health care that has higher deductibles and worse coverage. And Obamacare isn't active yet. Somethin's broke, folks. I don't know how to fix it, but there's a hole in the bucket. I doubt Obamacare is the answer, but this is an emergency.

[DJD]

First, the best pizza is at Papalino's in Louisville.

Second, I pay the worker's comp bills for a huge employer in Louisville. Every bill is written down by the worker's comp insurance company to about a third. In other words, if you sprain your shoulder, the hospital charges $24,000 but the insurance company negotiates that down to $7,500. If you have no insurance (self-insured), you get screwed beyond all measure. There's a reason they are building new hospitals with giant chandeliers in the lobby.

I think the Obamacare debate has misplaced this debate. Virtually every pension went bankrupt due to skyrocketing health care costs. Every government is slashing drastically due to high health care costs (good or bad). Every worker pays more every year for health care that has higher deductibles and worse coverage. And Obamacare isn't active yet. Somethin's broke, folks. I don't know how to fix it, but there's a hole in the bucket. I doubt Obamacare is the answer, but this is an emergency.

I'm with you on alot of this. First off, I don't understand Obamacare and I believe noone does 100%. The fact that we are getting more gubment intrusion scares me and it should anyone who has watched other programs get saved, formulated, revised or controlled. Anyone in business knows that to have quality there has to be a vested interest in the process by the workers or one helluva leader. Again that scares me because some of the reports we hear claim millions more patients will flood the system and the gubment will help dictate what is covered, what insurance you have and then the stories of the millions who will get coverage for free. Ever get around a gubment worker or system that is overwhelmed? They can go home at closing time and start back the next morning without alot of fear for their job. Or fear that they might fail and go out of business....they are just making a check!

Ever go to the Mall and have some young person who could care less help you find something? Maybe exchange some goods....Kinda aggravating huh? Take the other person who is excited or cares about what they do and you feel much better because you received good service. That how I see this new "change" coming with healthcare. I'm not saying Doctors are going to be this way....my concern is the supporting staff, gubment insurance and so on. To me, I would rather have quality over quantity when it comes to my healthcare.

How much of that it true? I don't know. If you think that we as tax paying folks won't bear any additional cost to help fund this your crazy. That scare me as well. Whats going to happen in 5-10 years when a large portion of this program that sounded like Nirvana to many actually has budget issues? The law makers mis-read the actual budget needs and now need more money to stay afloat. Sound familiar? Once the gubment gets into a system its like a virus. They get so ingrained with people, resources, more laws and dependency that you can't stop it. So if they need more money they just take it and sadly people rejoice in taxing others because they think it's fair. Well wait and see how it feels when they target you for healthcare cost on things not associated with Healthcare. Maybe selling a car, a new standard on who is deemed Rich, buying goods or whatever. It's all about control folks.

So the Healthcare was so bad we had to fix it huh? Actually, in my opinion, it was the Healthcare costs that were out of control. Frivolous lawsuits, insurance costs, drug companies and medical device cost are probably out of control (i'm guessing that from experience, no proof) and yet they did what for that? Anyone know? Seems to me they took the opportunity to just SELL the american people on a better way to do business when in fact it could be worse in the long run.

It scares the piss out of me when we see the kind of people in charge and the way they have done business. We all know that obama is trying to build a legacy for himself and the Dems was/in power like Pelosi wanted to be in on it. The people were not a consideration. Kinda funny how nothing major takes place until after the upcoming elections.....It was purely political. JMO

[kydonky]

I'm with you on alot of this. First off, I don't understand Obamacare and I believe noone does 100%. The fact that we are getting more gubment intrusion scares me and it should anyone who has watched other programs get saved, formulated, revised or controlled. Anyone in business knows that to have quality there has to be a vested interest in the process by the workers or one helluva leader. Again that scares me because some of the reports we hear claim millions more patients will flood the system and the gubment will help dictate what is covered, what insurance you have and then the stories of the millions who will get coverage for free. Ever get around a gubment worker or system that is overwhelmed? They can go home at closing time and start back the next morning without alot of fear for their job. Or fear that they might fail and go out of business....they are just making a check!

Ever go to the Mall and have some young person who could care less help you find something? Maybe exchange some goods....Kinda aggravating huh? Take the other person who is excited or cares about what they do and you feel much better because you received good service. That how I see this new "change" coming with healthcare. I'm not saying Doctors are going to be this way....my concern is the supporting staff, gubment insurance and so on. To me, I would rather have quality over quantity when it comes to my healthcare.

How much of that it true? I don't know. If you think that we as tax paying folks won't bear any additional cost to help fund this your crazy. That scare me as well. Whats going to happen in 5-10 years when a large portion of this program that sounded like Nirvana to many actually has budget issues? The law makers mis-read the actual budget needs and now need more money to stay afloat. Sound familiar? Once the gubment gets into a system its like a virus. They get so ingrained with people, resources, more laws and dependency that you can't stop it. So if they need more money they just take it and sadly people rejoice in taxing others because they think it's fair. Well wait and see how it feels when they target you for healthcare cost on things not associated with Healthcare. Maybe selling a car, a new standard on who is deemed Rich, buying goods or whatever. It's all about control folks.

So the Healthcare was so bad we had to fix it huh? Actually, in my opinion, it was the Healthcare costs that were out of control. Frivolous lawsuits, insurance costs, drug companies and medical device cost are probably out of control (i'm guessing that from experience, no proof) and yet they did what for that? Anyone know? Seems to me they took the opportunity to just SELL the american people on a better way to do business when in fact it could be worse in the long run.

It scares the piss out of me when we see the kind of people in charge and the way they have done business. We all know that obama is trying to build a legacy for himself and the Dems was/in power like Pelosi wanted to be in on it. The people were not a consideration. Kinda funny how nothing major takes place until after the upcoming elections.....It was purely political. JMO

Agree and Disagree

The cost of healthcare is stagering, this is contributing to insurance costs. Insurance coverage for most in the US is in the neighborhood of 50%+/-. Those without insurance recieve treatment then declare banckruptcy or simply do not pay. Health providers pass the losses onto those that pay (with insurance) increasing the cost of health care and insurance.

So round and around we go.

Now we also mentioned "frivolous lawsuits". The 99% of suits are based on real and SEVERE injuries. Doctors, hospitals and medical clinics are already shielded from liability through coprporation laws. Why should they be exempt from further liabilty over everybody else?

I think that the more people that use health care start paying for health care may spread the cost to each person.

[know1]

First, the best pizza is at Papalino's in Louisville.

Second, I pay the worker's comp bills for a huge employer in Louisville. Every bill is written down by the worker's comp insurance company to about a third. In other words, if you sprain your shoulder, the hospital charges $24,000 but the insurance company negotiates that down to $7,500. If you have no insurance (self-insured), you get screwed beyond all measure. There's a reason they are building new hospitals with giant chandeliers in the lobby.

See - I think that initial $24K bill is just part of the whole health insurance scam. If they were willing to accept so much less, then they should be willing to accept that from a person paying in cash. Especially since they don't have to deal with filing insurance, etc.

I think they inflate that initial charge just to scare people into thinking that they need insurance.

[waterdog101]

See - I think that initial $24K bill is just part of the whole health insurance scam. If they were willing to accept so much less, then they should be willing to accept that from a person paying in cash. Especially since they don't have to deal with filing insurance, etc.

I think they inflate that initial charge just to scare people into thinking that they need insurance.

I remember back in the day, I cut my finger on a saw blade. had to go to the hospital, no insurance waited in room for doctor about 25 minutes, he came in worked on it sewing it back together, took about 15 minutes. charged 1800.00 dollars, I like to died, I was thinking while he was sewing it up, this little mistake of cutting my finger will cost me a couple hundred bucks. the prices the Doctors charge is why everything is out of control. and you are right about if they can accept a lower bottom line, after all is said and done, they could have charged the lower price to begin with. it's the same way with the new autos, list price 5 to 10 thousand more than what they can sell the auto for. then offer the thousands in discounts or a lower interest rate to get it where it should be priced to begin with.