Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
I'm with you on alot of this. First off, I don't understand Obamacare and I believe noone does 100%. The fact that we are getting more gubment intrusion scares me and it should anyone who has watched other programs get saved, formulated, revised or controlled. Anyone in business knows that to have quality there has to be a vested interest in the process by the workers or one helluva leader. Again that scares me because some of the reports we hear claim millions more patients will flood the system and the gubment will help dictate what is covered, what insurance you have and then the stories of the millions who will get coverage for free. Ever get around a gubment worker or system that is overwhelmed? They can go home at closing time and start back the next morning without alot of fear for their job. Or fear that they might fail and go out of business....they are just making a check!

Ever go to the Mall and have some young person who could care less help you find something? Maybe exchange some goods....Kinda aggravating huh? Take the other person who is excited or cares about what they do and you feel much better because you received good service. That how I see this new "change" coming with healthcare. I'm not saying Doctors are going to be this way....my concern is the supporting staff, gubment insurance and so on. To me, I would rather have quality over quantity when it comes to my healthcare.

How much of that it true? I don't know. If you think that we as tax paying folks won't bear any additional cost to help fund this your crazy. That scare me as well. Whats going to happen in 5-10 years when a large portion of this program that sounded like Nirvana to many actually has budget issues? The law makers mis-read the actual budget needs and now need more money to stay afloat. Sound familiar? Once the gubment gets into a system its like a virus. They get so ingrained with people, resources, more laws and dependency that you can't stop it. So if they need more money they just take it and sadly people rejoice in taxing others because they think it's fair. Well wait and see how it feels when they target you for healthcare cost on things not associated with Healthcare. Maybe selling a car, a new standard on who is deemed Rich, buying goods or whatever. It's all about control folks.

So the Healthcare was so bad we had to fix it huh? Actually, in my opinion, it was the Healthcare costs that were out of control. Frivolous lawsuits, insurance costs, drug companies and medical device cost are probably out of control (i'm guessing that from experience, no proof) and yet they did what for that? Anyone know? Seems to me they took the opportunity to just SELL the american people on a better way to do business when in fact it could be worse in the long run.

It scares the piss out of me when we see the kind of people in charge and the way they have done business. We all know that obama is trying to build a legacy for himself and the Dems was/in power like Pelosi wanted to be in on it. The people were not a consideration. Kinda funny how nothing major takes place until after the upcoming elections.....It was purely political. JMO
Agree and Disagree

The cost of healthcare is stagering, this is contributing to insurance costs. Insurance coverage for most in the US is in the neighborhood of 50%+/-. Those without insurance recieve treatment then declare banckruptcy or simply do not pay. Health providers pass the losses onto those that pay (with insurance) increasing the cost of health care and insurance.

So round and around we go.

Now we also mentioned "frivolous lawsuits". The 99% of suits are based on real and SEVERE injuries. Doctors, hospitals and medical clinics are already shielded from liability through coprporation laws. Why should they be exempt from further liabilty over everybody else?

I think that the more people that use health care start paying for health care may spread the cost to each person.