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    Spending cuts who will be effected?

    spending cuts, do they effect everyone. the rich, middle class, and the poor. of the 3 classes of people, who is deciding what gets cut and doing the cutting. the rich guys will decide where the cuts will come from, and the middle class and the very poor will feel the pain. Ryan’s proposed budget, approved by almost all House Republicans, is also an exercise in fanaticism.

    That budget harms the poor and rewards the rich, but does little or nothing to reduce the federal budget deficit. Over 60 percent of its spending cuts come out of programs for lower-income Americans. Its tax cuts for the rich reduce revenues by $4.6 trillion over the decade while saving the typical millionaire hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.
    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/a...ly-astound-you

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    Looks like we are all seeing the "change" from your liberal hero. How much money has been spent on helping the economy? How much money is gonna be taken from us for this mandatory tax healthcare?? Sad part is you and millions of others are willing to give him another chance when all the data says he and his posse are a failure. How much money went to green jobs? How's that working out?

    The article says for us to give more money to the poor? What??? How about the economy get worked on by the people hired to do the job? What happened to him fixing the exonomy? How about those shovel ready jobs? They have had almost 4 years to work on the economy but chose to spend years on the healthcare tax instead. Now we find out that the liberal media has been lying about the status of the economy? Your not surprised are you? I hope not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    Looks like we are all seeing the "change" from your liberal hero. How much money has been spent on helping the economy? How much money is gonna be taken from us for this mandatory tax healthcare?? Sad part is you and millions of others are willing to give him another chance when all the data says he and his posse are a failure. How much money went to green jobs? How's that working out?

    The article says for us to give more money to the poor? What??? How about the economy get worked on by the people hired to do the job? What happened to him fixing the exonomy? How about those shovel ready jobs? They have had almost 4 years to work on the economy but chose to spend years on the healthcare tax instead. Now we find out that the liberal media has been lying about the status of the economy? Your not surprised are you? I hope not.
    from running out of work under Bush and being laid off for 7 months. I have worked 50 and 60hours per week under Obama and the company I work for has about 4 years work right now. so thats a change I like.

    when Obama took control, jobs were going down the drain at 100, per month to add to the total job loss of 9 million. he spent a lot of money and stopped the job drain. and it takes a while to clean up a disaster before you can rebuild. Obama has created 4 and a half Million jobs in the last 27 months and adding about 100, per month. a change I like.

    he put forth a health care plan, where in the past the rest only talked about it. while 35 million people were without healthcare. Millions of Americans—from the women who can now access free checkups to the seniors saving on their prescriptions to the 105 million people that have seen lifetime limits on their insurance coverage lifted—can continue to enjoy these important benefits. And now, we can move forward on implementing the provisions to come, like new state insurance exchanges, and making sure no American is denied coverage due to a pre-existing condition.12.8 Million Americans Receive Insurance Rebates

    Before health care reform, insurance companies routinely spent up to 40% of premiums on overhead and administrative costs. Today, thanks to Obamacare, insurance companies are required to spend at least 80% of your premium on your health care—and if they don’t, you get a rebate. This summer, nearly 12.8 million Americans will start receiving their rebate checks, averaging $151 per household—and totaling more than $1.1 billion.

    3.1 Million Young Americans Gain Health Coverage

    Before the Affordable Care Act, young people could be kicked off their parents' health insurance as soon as they turned 18. But thanks to health care reform, 3.1 million young Americans who would otherwise be uninsured have been able to stay on their family's coverage until age 26—coverage that often includes free preventive care, like checkups and flu shots. a good change.

    he spent about 30 billion on green jobs, the absurd allegation that the stimulus did not create any American jobs (when the Congressional Budget Office’s economists state that it created or saved between 1.2 million and and 3.3 million jobs) and the overreaching claim that President Obama has “wasted” $34 billion on investments like Solyndra (when in fact only 2 percent of such loans have gone bad).

    I have a long memory span, it goes back more than 4 years. I think the man will get reelected, and get us back on track. he has a rough road ahead. things are bad around the globe. and maybe Mitch Mcconnell will have something other than making Obama a one term President his number one priority. which would help.

    and there's not much that can happen, that surprises me anymore.

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    We will never see eye to eye. Good luck to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdog101 View Post
    from running out of work under Bush and being laid off for 7 months. I have worked 50 and 60hours per week under Obama and the company I work for has about 4 years work right now. so thats a change I like.

    when Obama took control, jobs were going down the drain at 100, per month to add to the total job loss of 9 million. he spent a lot of money and stopped the job drain. and it takes a while to clean up a disaster before you can rebuild. Obama has created 4 and a half Million jobs in the last 27 months and adding about 100, per month. a change I like.

    he put forth a health care plan, where in the past the rest only talked about it. while 35 million people were without healthcare. Millions of Americans—from the women who can now access free checkups to the seniors saving on their prescriptions to the 105 million people that have seen lifetime limits on their insurance coverage lifted—can continue to enjoy these important benefits. And now, we can move forward on implementing the provisions to come, like new state insurance exchanges, and making sure no American is denied coverage due to a pre-existing condition.12.8 Million Americans Receive Insurance Rebates

    Before health care reform, insurance companies routinely spent up to 40% of premiums on overhead and administrative costs. Today, thanks to Obamacare, insurance companies are required to spend at least 80% of your premium on your health care—and if they don’t, you get a rebate. This summer, nearly 12.8 million Americans will start receiving their rebate checks, averaging $151 per household—and totaling more than $1.1 billion.

    3.1 Million Young Americans Gain Health Coverage

    Before the Affordable Care Act, young people could be kicked off their parents' health insurance as soon as they turned 18. But thanks to health care reform, 3.1 million young Americans who would otherwise be uninsured have been able to stay on their family's coverage until age 26—coverage that often includes free preventive care, like checkups and flu shots. a good change.

    he spent about 30 billion on green jobs, the absurd allegation that the stimulus did not create any American jobs (when the Congressional Budget Office’s economists state that it created or saved between 1.2 million and and 3.3 million jobs) and the overreaching claim that President Obama has “wasted” $34 billion on investments like Solyndra (when in fact only 2 percent of such loans have gone bad).

    I have a long memory span, it goes back more than 4 years. I think the man will get reelected, and get us back on track. he has a rough road ahead. things are bad around the globe. and maybe Mitch Mcconnell will have something other than making Obama a one term President his number one priority. which would help.

    and there's not much that can happen, that surprises me anymore.
    Very well said! The truth often hurts those right wingers

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    shovel jobs?

    Maybe "Mitch" can answer your question!

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    Spending cuts will be good for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdog101 View Post
    from running out of work under Bush and being laid off for 7 months. I have worked 50 and 60hours per week under Obama and the company I work for has about 4 years work right now. so thats a change I like.

    when Obama took control, jobs were going down the drain at 100, per month to add to the total job loss of 9 million. he spent a lot of money and stopped the job drain. and it takes a while to clean up a disaster before you can rebuild. Obama has created 4 and a half Million jobs in the last 27 months and adding about 100, per month. a change I like.

    he put forth a health care plan, where in the past the rest only talked about it. while 35 million people were without healthcare. Millions of Americans—from the women who can now access free checkups to the seniors saving on their prescriptions to the 105 million people that have seen lifetime limits on their insurance coverage lifted—can continue to enjoy these important benefits. And now, we can move forward on implementing the provisions to come, like new state insurance exchanges, and making sure no American is denied coverage due to a pre-existing condition.12.8 Million Americans Receive Insurance Rebates

    Before health care reform, insurance companies routinely spent up to 40% of premiums on overhead and administrative costs. Today, thanks to Obamacare, insurance companies are required to spend at least 80% of your premium on your health care—and if they don’t, you get a rebate. This summer, nearly 12.8 million Americans will start receiving their rebate checks, averaging $151 per household—and totaling more than $1.1 billion.

    3.1 Million Young Americans Gain Health Coverage

    Before the Affordable Care Act, young people could be kicked off their parents' health insurance as soon as they turned 18. But thanks to health care reform, 3.1 million young Americans who would otherwise be uninsured have been able to stay on their family's coverage until age 26—coverage that often includes free preventive care, like checkups and flu shots. a good change.

    he spent about 30 billion on green jobs, the absurd allegation that the stimulus did not create any American jobs (when the Congressional Budget Office’s economists state that it created or saved between 1.2 million and and 3.3 million jobs) and the overreaching claim that President Obama has “wasted” $34 billion on investments like Solyndra (when in fact only 2 percent of such loans have gone bad).

    I have a long memory span, it goes back more than 4 years. I think the man will get reelected, and get us back on track. he has a rough road ahead. things are bad around the globe. and maybe Mitch Mcconnell will have something other than making Obama a one term President his number one priority. which would help.

    and there's not much that can happen, that surprises me anymore.
    Fact: First thing Mr Obama, Reid, and Pelosi did was ram through a trillion dollar spending bill without allowing the opposition to read it. Hell, they didn't even read it. His promise to Americans to justify it was a guarantee unemployment wouldn't go above 8%. (Good ole shovel ready government projects) Even after the Feds cook the hell out of the books (seasonal adjustments, etc), and ignores the millions who have dropped out and shrunk the work force, the unemployment rate is 8.2%

    I know, I know, it's Bush's fault, but who is going to pay for this spending?

    A person can now draw something like 99 weeks of unemployment, and easily get extensions for longer.

    Bush's fault, and a cold hearted question, but who is going to pay for it?

    Fact: Obamacare is going to cost a lot of money, and anyone who says otherwise is either a liar or a blithering idiot. This bill is step one by liberals to put insurance companies out of business and let the government take over.

    Bush's fault of course, but who is going to pay for it?

    Fact: Mr Obama promised to cut the deficit in half. The democrats have not submitted a budget during his entire administration, they've used the press and dumbasses like yourself to frame Republican budgets as right wing extremism. Result? No cuts by Mr. Obama, progressively higher deficits in every year of his presidency.

    THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS OVER 15 TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT. I don't know the math, but every family in America, including all you Obama supporters owes 2 or 3 HUNDRED thousand if not more.

    All Bush's fault, but who is going to pay it?

    Fact: The government could declare open class warfare and confiscate all the money those villainous rich people have, ALL of it, 100% of it, and it wouldn't make a dent. READ this last sentence okay? READ IT!!!!

    So, once again, who will pay for it all? Based on the 100% probability yourself, or any other liberal clown out there has the answer, I'll clue you in. You and I along with coming generations of working Americans that's who will pay.

    Fact: Mr. Obama's federal government is again quietly pushing the same lending practices that collapsed the real estate market and got the current recession rolling.

    Bush's fault, but what the heck are they thinking? You prolly need some help with this one. Mr. Obama's administration is pandering to a segment of the population whose vote he must have to be reelected.

    Fact: You can vote for Mr. Obama and European style social democracy, where in return for sky high taxes a bloated federal government pretty well regulates every aspect of your life...or you can not.

    I too have a long memory span, and the ability to actually see reality. Mr Obama may be reelected, but it damned sure won't be because of my vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdog101 View Post
    from running out of work under Bush and being laid off for 7 months. I have worked 50 and 60hours per week under Obama and the company I work for has about 4 years work right now. so thats a change I like.
    You're one of the few (very few) in this country who can boast about having plenty of work. Either you're working plenty of O.T. because your company has that much work or working all that O.T. because your company has made cut backs and are now doing more with less. At any rate, you're one of the few. On the flip side the coin my story is this: "I worked a solid 27+ years with a single layoff, stayed steadily and gainfully employed during that entire time...in 2010 I got laid off for the first time...lucky me got another job in a matter of days. 2012 got laid off for the second time...lucky me lands another job within a couple of months.

    Take this bit of information to the bank: "If Obama gets re-elected then this country is already in a far sadder shape than anyone here can begin to imagine". Sad but very VERY true!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils Horse View Post
    Fact: You can vote for Mr. Obama and European style social democracy, where in return for sky high taxes a bloated federal government pretty well regulates every aspect of your life...or you can not.
    Winner, winner, chicken dinner...

    I'll choose the "can not" option there, thank you. Mr. Obama won't be re-elected with any help from MrSplitshot, and I approve this message.

    However, and I still stand by this, I think he will be re-elected...because the majority of blithering idiots in this country (read: "votes") have no idea what a European-style social democracy is, nor have any mindset whatsoever that would lead them to read, learn, and understand about the impact of government spending, the impact of Obamacare, etc. Hell, they don't even know how government works. The government is to them, after all, those guys in Washington that print all the money and have an unlimited bank account.

    I pray to Jesus, Mary, Joseph, and the Shepherds every night that I'm wrong and this country wises up. I'd also pray to Aqua-Buddha, Fat Elvis, or Puff the Magic Dragon if I thought it would help. Mitt Romney was not my choice for a Republican Candidate, but I'd vote for him loooooooong before I ever voted for Barack Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by know1 View Post
    Spending cuts will be good for everyone.
    Sure it will (sarcasm intended)! Did you know it also includes cuts in your salary? The politicians are saying that unions have already outlived their usefulness and that people can live off lower salaries.

    They haven't heard some of the truths I've heard, within the past month, from people who can no longer make it on their salaries or who have already been laid off. What should I tell them when they ask for work; that spending cuts will be good for everyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSplitshot View Post
    I think he will be re-elected...because the majority of blithering idiots in this country (read: "votes") have no idea what a European-style social democracy is, nor have any mindset whatsoever that would lead them to read, learn, and understand about the impact of government spending, the impact of Obamacare, etc.

    Mitt Romney was not my choice for a Republican Candidate, but I'd vote for him loooooooong before I ever voted for Barack Obama
    I hope you're wrong...man I hope you're wrong. But I tend to think his chances of being re-eected are pretty good too for the the reasons you mentioned, to many dumb asses out there don't know any better. You know the Muslims in this country love him...and by golly if anyone thinks for a second that the Muslim population in this country is not multiplying hugely, they are sadly mistaken.

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