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    Spending cuts who will be effected?

    spending cuts, do they effect everyone. the rich, middle class, and the poor. of the 3 classes of people, who is deciding what gets cut and doing the cutting. the rich guys will decide where the cuts will come from, and the middle class and the very poor will feel the pain. Ryan’s proposed budget, approved by almost all House Republicans, is also an exercise in fanaticism.

    That budget harms the poor and rewards the rich, but does little or nothing to reduce the federal budget deficit. Over 60 percent of its spending cuts come out of programs for lower-income Americans. Its tax cuts for the rich reduce revenues by $4.6 trillion over the decade while saving the typical millionaire hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.
    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/a...ly-astound-you

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    Looks like we are all seeing the "change" from your liberal hero. How much money has been spent on helping the economy? How much money is gonna be taken from us for this mandatory tax healthcare?? Sad part is you and millions of others are willing to give him another chance when all the data says he and his posse are a failure. How much money went to green jobs? How's that working out?

    The article says for us to give more money to the poor? What??? How about the economy get worked on by the people hired to do the job? What happened to him fixing the exonomy? How about those shovel ready jobs? They have had almost 4 years to work on the economy but chose to spend years on the healthcare tax instead. Now we find out that the liberal media has been lying about the status of the economy? Your not surprised are you? I hope not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    Looks like we are all seeing the "change" from your liberal hero. How much money has been spent on helping the economy? How much money is gonna be taken from us for this mandatory tax healthcare?? Sad part is you and millions of others are willing to give him another chance when all the data says he and his posse are a failure. How much money went to green jobs? How's that working out?

    The article says for us to give more money to the poor? What??? How about the economy get worked on by the people hired to do the job? What happened to him fixing the exonomy? How about those shovel ready jobs? They have had almost 4 years to work on the economy but chose to spend years on the healthcare tax instead. Now we find out that the liberal media has been lying about the status of the economy? Your not surprised are you? I hope not.
    from running out of work under Bush and being laid off for 7 months. I have worked 50 and 60hours per week under Obama and the company I work for has about 4 years work right now. so thats a change I like.

    when Obama took control, jobs were going down the drain at 100, per month to add to the total job loss of 9 million. he spent a lot of money and stopped the job drain. and it takes a while to clean up a disaster before you can rebuild. Obama has created 4 and a half Million jobs in the last 27 months and adding about 100, per month. a change I like.

    he put forth a health care plan, where in the past the rest only talked about it. while 35 million people were without healthcare. Millions of Americans—from the women who can now access free checkups to the seniors saving on their prescriptions to the 105 million people that have seen lifetime limits on their insurance coverage lifted—can continue to enjoy these important benefits. And now, we can move forward on implementing the provisions to come, like new state insurance exchanges, and making sure no American is denied coverage due to a pre-existing condition.12.8 Million Americans Receive Insurance Rebates

    Before health care reform, insurance companies routinely spent up to 40% of premiums on overhead and administrative costs. Today, thanks to Obamacare, insurance companies are required to spend at least 80% of your premium on your health care—and if they don’t, you get a rebate. This summer, nearly 12.8 million Americans will start receiving their rebate checks, averaging $151 per household—and totaling more than $1.1 billion.

    3.1 Million Young Americans Gain Health Coverage

    Before the Affordable Care Act, young people could be kicked off their parents' health insurance as soon as they turned 18. But thanks to health care reform, 3.1 million young Americans who would otherwise be uninsured have been able to stay on their family's coverage until age 26—coverage that often includes free preventive care, like checkups and flu shots. a good change.

    he spent about 30 billion on green jobs, the absurd allegation that the stimulus did not create any American jobs (when the Congressional Budget Office’s economists state that it created or saved between 1.2 million and and 3.3 million jobs) and the overreaching claim that President Obama has “wasted” $34 billion on investments like Solyndra (when in fact only 2 percent of such loans have gone bad).

    I have a long memory span, it goes back more than 4 years. I think the man will get reelected, and get us back on track. he has a rough road ahead. things are bad around the globe. and maybe Mitch Mcconnell will have something other than making Obama a one term President his number one priority. which would help.

    and there's not much that can happen, that surprises me anymore.

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    We will never see eye to eye. Good luck to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    We will never see eye to eye. Good luck to you.
    I don't have a friend in the world, that I see eye to eye with. but that don't get in our way to go fishing or have dinner together. we are still friends we just disagree from time to time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterdog101 View Post
    from running out of work under Bush and being laid off for 7 months. I have worked 50 and 60hours per week under Obama and the company I work for has about 4 years work right now. so thats a change I like.

    when Obama took control, jobs were going down the drain at 100, per month to add to the total job loss of 9 million. he spent a lot of money and stopped the job drain. and it takes a while to clean up a disaster before you can rebuild. Obama has created 4 and a half Million jobs in the last 27 months and adding about 100, per month. a change I like.

    he put forth a health care plan, where in the past the rest only talked about it. while 35 million people were without healthcare. Millions of Americans—from the women who can now access free checkups to the seniors saving on their prescriptions to the 105 million people that have seen lifetime limits on their insurance coverage lifted—can continue to enjoy these important benefits. And now, we can move forward on implementing the provisions to come, like new state insurance exchanges, and making sure no American is denied coverage due to a pre-existing condition.12.8 Million Americans Receive Insurance Rebates

    Before health care reform, insurance companies routinely spent up to 40% of premiums on overhead and administrative costs. Today, thanks to Obamacare, insurance companies are required to spend at least 80% of your premium on your health care—and if they don’t, you get a rebate. This summer, nearly 12.8 million Americans will start receiving their rebate checks, averaging $151 per household—and totaling more than $1.1 billion.

    3.1 Million Young Americans Gain Health Coverage

    Before the Affordable Care Act, young people could be kicked off their parents' health insurance as soon as they turned 18. But thanks to health care reform, 3.1 million young Americans who would otherwise be uninsured have been able to stay on their family's coverage until age 26—coverage that often includes free preventive care, like checkups and flu shots. a good change.

    he spent about 30 billion on green jobs, the absurd allegation that the stimulus did not create any American jobs (when the Congressional Budget Office’s economists state that it created or saved between 1.2 million and and 3.3 million jobs) and the overreaching claim that President Obama has “wasted” $34 billion on investments like Solyndra (when in fact only 2 percent of such loans have gone bad).

    I have a long memory span, it goes back more than 4 years. I think the man will get reelected, and get us back on track. he has a rough road ahead. things are bad around the globe. and maybe Mitch Mcconnell will have something other than making Obama a one term President his number one priority. which would help.

    and there's not much that can happen, that surprises me anymore.
    Very well said! The truth often hurts those right wingers

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    shovel jobs?

    Maybe "Mitch" can answer your question!

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    Spending cuts will be good for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by know1 View Post
    Spending cuts will be good for everyone.
    Sure it will (sarcasm intended)! Did you know it also includes cuts in your salary? The politicians are saying that unions have already outlived their usefulness and that people can live off lower salaries.

    They haven't heard some of the truths I've heard, within the past month, from people who can no longer make it on their salaries or who have already been laid off. What should I tell them when they ask for work; that spending cuts will be good for everyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassin_bug View Post
    Sure it will (sarcasm intended)! Did you know it also includes cuts in your salary? The politicians are saying that unions have already outlived their usefulness and that people can live off lower salaries.

    They haven't heard some of the truths I've heard, within the past month, from people who can no longer make it on their salaries or who have already been laid off. What should I tell them when they ask for work; that spending cuts will be good for everyone?
    I don't understand. Whose salaries are spending cuts going to affect? The 2.6+ million federal government employees and their 2.6+ billion dollar annual payroll? BTW, that's a roughly $100,000 average annual salary per worker. Throw in their benefits and it's a pretty nice gig. Could they live off less? Most Americans do.

    I haven't heard any politicians say unions have outlived their usefulness, and people can live off lower salaries. Maybe I'm wrong though, who said it?

    It is very tough right now, the economy is in the tank. I believe private companies are holding back because of the hostile climate the current administration has created, and the extreme uncertainty caused by the current administration. Liberals demonize anyone who makes a lot of money(except themselves of course), and Mr. Obama (a rich guy himself) is the head liberal.

    We'd be well on the road to recovery with an administration that believed in shrinking the federal government's size and scope. Those evil companies and rich people are uncertain whether this administration can push through taxes and legislation that will take more of the money they've earned and let the federal government redistribute some of it, and piss away the rest.

    Most people with a clue see a government over 15 trillion in debt and spending a trillion or two more every year than they take in, and it makes them very nervous. Doesn't take a genius to see that finances run like that lead to bankruptcy.

    IMO, the best possible economic medicine for America would be to turn Mr. Obama and Harry Reid out of office. It may not happen, but that IS the change we desperately need.

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    You guys didn't post this stuff..............Peter made it possible, LMAO...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhall View Post
    You guys didn't post this stuff..............Peter made it possible, LMAO...
    ROTFLMAO.

    He didn't do that! He didn't build that! That dang Peter is evil...wants to kill the poor and make money.

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