Quote Originally Posted by Devils Horse View Post
Have you yourself looked the uh "Affordable" Care ACT?

A 4.27mb PDF file plus the 282kb reconciliation.

You can save time on the reconciliation, it just highlights cuts in student loans and plugs in a few 'minor' adjustments to the original numbers. Here's a sample:
SEC. 2303. COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS.
Section 10503(b)(1) of the Patient Protection and Affordable
Care Act is amended—
(1) in subparagraph (A), by striking ‘‘700,000,000’’ and
inserting ‘‘1,000,000,000’’;
(2) in subparagraph (B), by striking ‘‘800,000,000’’ and
inserting ‘‘1,200,000,000’’;
(3) in subparagraph (C), by striking ‘‘1,000,000,000’’ and
inserting ‘‘1,500,000,000’’;
(4) in subparagraph (D), by striking ‘‘1,600,000,000’’ and
inserting ‘‘2,200,000,000’’; and
(5) in subparagraph (E), by striking ‘‘2,900,000,000’’ and
inserting ‘‘3,600,000,000’’.

Try to actually read this bureaucratic monstrosity instead of parroting Democrat sound bytes. Go ahead, I dare you.

How is the 650 billion taken from Medicare for "Affordable healthcare" going to be spent? I can't tell, the act is written to obscure this. The fluff on their web page seems to indicate it'll be used to curb fraud.

The federal government curbing fraud? Does any who pays taxes in America seriously believe this?

Once again, here is the truth. Obamacare is not going to save money, it is going to cost the government and private companies (this means us in case you're not paying attention) unimaginable dollars. Obamacare is going to cause insurance rates (yep, paid by us too) to skyrocket.

With few exceptions, a fresh book of federal government mandates has never solved any problem in this country.

I'll say it again. The government is not the answer.
you have to give him credit for trying something, everyone else has talked about health care for to many years. I truly hope it works, I hate the fact that they can tell us we have to buy it even though we are not sick. but I can see where if everyone is doing their part. it will or should help keep the cost down. and for the voucher deal, that is crazy to think the insurance company's competing with each other for the vouchers will keep the premiums low. it didn't work when they said we had to buy car insurance. the insurance company's get together on the prices they charge. just like big oil does on the gas per gallon prices. just as well flush the money down the drain, as to let the Insurance company's decide what everyone will be paying. I trust Insurance company"s even less than I do Obama and Mitt.