Debate tonight?

[apb]

Also every fact check ive seen agrees with Romney and Romney made that clear during debate....

Really??? Every one that I've seen indicates that they are both lying sacks of ****. One from last night's debate:


False Claims in Final Debate

Obama, Romney take turns twisting the facts in Florida on foreign policy.

Posted on October 23, 2012





Summary

In the third and final Obama-Romney debate, the candidates again contradicted each other, while each offered incorrect or twisted factual claims.

President Obama erred when he accused Mitt Romney of saying during the 2008 campaign that “we should ask Pakistan for permission” before going into that country to kill or capture terrorists. What Romney said was that he’d “keep our options quiet.”
Obama wrongly accused Romney of not telling the truth when Romney said “you and I agreed” some U.S. troops should be left in Iraq. In fact, the president tried and failed to negotiate an agreement to keep 3,000 to 4,000 support troops there; Romney said he would have left 10,000 to 30,000.
Obama said unemployment among military veterans is lower than for the general population. That’s true for veterans generally but not for veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
Romney was wrong when he repeated a claim that our “Navy is smaller now than any time since 1917.” Actually, there are slightly more ships active now than at the low point under President George W. Bush.
Obama claimed the record would back him up when he accused Romney of opposing any federal “help” or “assistance” for troubled automakers. In fact, the record shows Romney supported federal loan guarantees.
Romney repeated his claim that the president undertook “an apology tour … criticizing America” after Obama became president. Obama called that “probably the biggest whopper that’s been told” during the entire campaign. And in fact, our own analysis, and that of other fact-checkers, found no “apology” in the president’s speeches.
Romney claimed credit for top scores by Massachusetts grade-schoolers while he was governor. But they tested at the top, or near it, before Romney took office.
Obama wrongly claimed Romney called Russia the “biggest geopolitical threat facing America.” Actually, Romney called Russia a “foe” and not a “threat.” He said “the greatest threat that the world faces is a nuclear Iran.”
Romney said the federal debt to “other people” is $16 trillion, which isn’t correct. The debt owed to the public is $11 trillion, and the figure he gave includes money the government owes to itself.
Romney claimed terrorism wasn’t mentioned in any presidential debate in 2000. Actually, Al Gore made one brief mention.

One issue on which the two men no longer seem to disagree is pulling out all U.S. combat troops from Afghanistan by the end of 2014. Romney had previously criticized the president for setting a date, and later modified his position to say he agreed with the president’s timeline but would be guided by military commanders and events “on the ground.” This time, he dropped all qualifiers and said flatly, “[W]hen I’m president, we’ll make sure we bring our troops out by the end of 2014.”[FONT=Times New Roman] [/FONT]
Note: This is a summary only. The full article with analysis, images and citations may be viewed on our website:
http://factcheck.org/2012/10/false-c...-final-debate/

[MrSplitshot]

http://youtu.be/bXEglx-or6k

[TimE]

Also every fact check ive seen agrees with Romney and Romney made that clear during debate.

0 acted like a teachers pet, spoiler brat

So Apb, just because 0 didn't apoligize Romney is a lieing sack of ****? How about him telling Mexico that it was border gun shops supplying the guns causing the drug killings? That is paraphrased but I guarandamtee you don't want me to look up entire quote or audio!!

Especially since that pos and his pos ag was the ones sending the guns to Mexico to enact new gun laws here. Who is the sack of **** now? GOOD RIDDANCE come Jan 20!!!!

[apb]

So Apb, just because 0 didn't apoligize Romney is a lieing sack of ****? How about him telling Mexico that it was border gun shops supplying the guns causing the drug killings? That is paraphrased but I guarandamtee you don't want me to look up entire quote or audio!!

Especially since that pos and his pos ag was the ones sending the guns to Mexico to enact new gun laws here. Who is the sack of **** now? GOOD RIDDANCE come Jan 20!!!!

How about reading the rest of my post. You'll notice several other fabrications from Romney. I could post similar discussions involving the last two debates and others from his stump speach (same for Obama). You indicated that all your sources showed that Romney told the true. Care to share those sources with the rest of us? Everything that I've seen has indicated that both Obama and Romney stretched the truth a number of times.

Post the entire gun quote if it makes you feel better. I've indicated on here plenty of times that I'm not a big Obama fan.

Concerning the debates and who won and lost. Romney did not lose, nor did Obama. We, the American people are the biggest losers in all of this. America faces a number of important issues right now from economic problems at home to foreign policy issues. Rather than address these issues and provide a plan for moving forward, both candidates are more interested in sound bites, scoring policial points, spinning positions, providing half-trues about what each other has said, etc. Neither candidate seems willing to lead and provide a logical path out of this mess. I think it would have been interesting in the debates to have included 3rd party candidates. Might have forced the two front runners to actually defend their positions fully and sparked some real dialog. Also a shame that the republicans could not find a better candidate than Romney. Obama is a weak president and not worthy of a second term. This election was the republicans to lose, and at times they have seemed hell bent on doing so. The only real difference between the two is that Romney is not Obama, and that is hardly something to run a campaine on (thats how we got Obama).

[TimE]

How about reading the rest of my post. You'll notice several other fabrications from Romney. I could post similar discussions involving the last two debates and others from his stump speach (same for Obama). You indicated that all your sources showed that Romney told the true. Care to share those sources with the rest of us? Everything that I've seen has indicated that both Obama and Romney stretched the truth a number of times.

Post the entire gun quote if it makes you feel better. I've indicated on here plenty of times that I'm not a big Obama fan.

Concerning the debates and who won and lost. Romney did not lose, nor did Obama. We, the American people are the biggest losers in all of this. America faces a number of important issues right now from economic problems at home to foreign policy issues. Rather than address these issues and provide a plan for moving forward, both candidates are more interested in sound bites, scoring policial points, spinning positions, providing half-trues about what each other has said, etc. Neither candidate seems willing to lead and provide a logical path out of this mess. I think it would have been interesting in the debates to have included 3rd party candidates. Might have forced the two front runners to actually defend their positions fully and sparked some real dialog. Also a shame that the republicans could not find a better candidate than Romney. Obama is a weak president and not worthy of a second term. This election was the republicans to lose, and at times they have seemed hell bent on doing so. The only real difference between the two is that Romney is not Obama, and that is hardly something to run a campaine on (thats how we got Obama).

Lmao. So if you twist Romney's exact words they may be 10% untrue. Do you care to compare?

LIBYA, LIBYA, LIBYA. Ok, so Romney should have said "Blame America first tour".

[Chubminnow]

As APB pointed out...both are lying sacks of ****....so with this being said I guess Romney was there to prove to America that if he can lie as well as or better than Obama...so if that's what the American people want, then why not vote for Romney? I'd rather have a lyin' American in office than I had a lyin' MUSLIM!

[FlyLie]

OMG, November 6th. Now guys, be sure to vote and vote often! I'll be there before the frost melts.

[DJD]

I'm voting once (thats what honest folks do) and it will be for the winning candidate!!

[waterdog101]

I'm voting once (thats what honest folks do) and it will be for the winning candidate!!

you really had me fooled, I thought for sure you were a Romney man. but down deep, I new you were smarter than that. Glad you are voting for Obama, me to. mhall wouldn't admit it on here like you and me, but I bet he will vote for the winning candidate also.

[DJD]

you really had me fooled, I thought for sure you were a Romney man. but down deep, I new you were smarter than that. Glad you are voting for Obama, me to. mhall wouldn't admit it on here like you and me, but I bet he will vote for the winning candidate also.

uhhhh hello??? I said winning candidate!!

[kygorski]

I thought the only noise a rectum was capable of passing gas. Congrats hall , you learned to talk throuh yours!

[mhall]

I thought the only noise a rectum was capable of passing gas. Congrats hall , you learned to talk throuh yours!

Why not you idiot liberals do it daily, don't I get a turn.......