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    also

    oregon montana have some pot ballot choices also But feseral law prohibits it. So you gys who believe arizona has states rights, there are two sides to the coin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kygorski View Post
    a few during the 70s, a few more during the 80s. Number auto accidents ZERO, that is chargeable to me, been rear ended several times and T boned once.Since 1954 3 speeding tickets.One while driving a taxi part time. Booze is a bigger problem for me.By the way, our bowling team was sponsered by a local tao, they also sponsered a local police team, come friday nights once in awhile we toked together. A hunting buddy of mine made chief of detectives.
    Hmm, I rest my case......................

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    Smile chill out tim

    I could take it or leave it, same with booze. You believe too much bull spit. Bet you were afraid of going blind also, and harry palms was a myth too.Right wing kooks are just as bad as leftys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimE View Post
    A huge zero ehh? Ask me how I know you are a stoner that has done his research.

    A simple search could have prevented you from spreading misinformation, http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul...ivers-20110703
    well that article proves nothing on the use of pot ........

    hence the phrase " DRUGGED DEIVER " not the phrase " THESE DRIVER ONLY SMOKED POT " ......

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    Well this subject gets me fired up. My daughter started smoking pot in high school. We confronted her and told her that pot wouldn't be enough for her and she would be more willing to try other drugs. She laughed at us and said she would never do those "other" drugs. Well she quit cheer leading, she quit softball, she started dating stoners. Everyone of her boyfriends have done time in prison or rehab. She never graduated from high school. She moved in with her looser boyfriend when she was 17. We didn't see her very often for a year even though she lived a mile from my house. We started hearing that she was in bad shape and when she was 20 she finally came home. She had been high on Meth for a week before coming home and hadn't slept in a week. My little girl was dying in front of me. She couldn't help herself. I told her that she needed help or she would die or go to prison. While she was away from us, she had her door busted down by the police twice. She had just left both times. The first time, they were watching her house(it was a foreclosed house with no power), she was pulled over as soon as she left in her car. She swallowed the drugs she had on her and was let go. She could have O.D.'d but by Gods grace she was just high as a kite. I was able to get her in rehab 1 1/2 yrs ago. She came out clean and is clean to this day. She is paranoid about any drug or alcohol now, thank God. She came home 8 months ago and told me she was pregnant. I'm going to be grandpa! I am so thankful that she didn't go to prison or die from her drug abuse. I know everyone will say my daughter was different and that everyone else can handle it. Think what you want. I know how it affected my family. Many tears over the years. The not knowing when you go months without hearing from her. It was a nightmare! Here is a picture of her the day I took her to rehab and then a picture after the drugs were out of her system. No, that is not acne. Pic marks from Meth.

    http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/...ftforrehab.jpg

    http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/...eyscloseup.jpg

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    Scott it broke my heart to hear you tell that story and I feel for you and your family and am very glad there is a happy ending. I do not feel we are all talking about the same thing here but I do understand your stance and why you would be very against it.

    Your daughter is very pretty and the enthusiastic genuine smile at the end says it all. Great luck and God Speed to you and your family and congratulations on being a grandfather. Make it work and best wishes friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mean Morone View Post
    Well this subject gets me fired up. My daughter started smoking pot in high school. We confronted her and told her that pot wouldn't be enough for her and she would be more willing to try other drugs. She laughed at us and said she would never do those "other" drugs. Well she quit cheer leading, she quit softball, she started dating stoners. Everyone of her boyfriends have done time in prison or rehab. She never graduated from high school. She moved in with her looser boyfriend when she was 17. We didn't see her very often for a year even though she lived a mile from my house. We started hearing that she was in bad shape and when she was 20 she finally came home. She had been high on Meth for a week before coming home and hadn't slept in a week. My little girl was dying in front of me. She couldn't help herself. I told her that she needed help or she would die or go to prison. While she was away from us, she had her door busted down by the police twice. She had just left both times. The first time, they were watching her house(it was a foreclosed house with no power), she was pulled over as soon as she left in her car. She swallowed the drugs she had on her and was let go. She could have O.D.'d but by Gods grace she was just high as a kite. I was able to get her in rehab 1 1/2 yrs ago. She came out clean and is clean to this day. She is paranoid about any drug or alcohol now, thank God. She came home 8 months ago and told me she was pregnant. I'm going to be grandpa! I am so thankful that she didn't go to prison or die from her drug abuse. I know everyone will say my daughter was different and that everyone else can handle it. Think what you want. I know how it affected my family. Many tears over the years. The not knowing when you go months without hearing from her. It was a nightmare! Here is a picture of her the day I took her to rehab and then a picture after the drugs were out of her system. No, that is not acne. Pic marks from Meth.

    http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/...ftforrehab.jpg

    http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/...eyscloseup.jpg

    Unfortunately this is a all too common story. Sounds like your daughter may come out of this stronger than before, and that she has a family that loves her.

    This agenda of some is a very slippery slope

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    It's all about choices. Marijuana is no more of a gateway drug than a tylenol suppository. Just because Nancy Reagan says it's bad doesn't automatically make it so. My dad busted me with a quarter bag during my 5th year of college. He told me I was going to end up like my uncle Mark. Well I smoked with my uncle Mark many times and he's now dead. His life wasn't the greatest, but that was his choice. When he busted me I had about a 3.9 GPA in one of the better schools of pharmacy at Purdue University. Now I'm surrounded by drugs every day - I could lift all the Oxycontin's and Opana's I want - IF I WANTED TO. There's simply no reason for me to do so. It's almost like "guns don't kill people........"

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    I smoked the stuff like a madman back in the day too.

    It did get me in trouble twice with the Ky Fish & Wildlife enforcement. Twice they busted me for smoking while out fishing.

    I'm much more lazy these days than I was back then. It was like the pot made me want to get up and do things. I never watched nearly as much tv or spent as much time on the computer when I smoked that chit.

    My wife loved it because I would smoke some of that stuff and a hour or so later the house would be spotless the grass mowed and she said I wasn't as much of a D**k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catfish Bob View Post
    she said I wasn't as much of a D**k.
    DUCK?

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    While i can honestly see both sides of the story, I question a few things

    TimE, you say that the people you know that smoke pot are lazy, don't have motivation, and don't get things done? Have you ever wondered if maybe they were just worthless people to start with? I know a lot of people who don't smoke pot that fit your criteria. And before you start your mouth, know that I'm not a coughhippiecough, a pothead, a stoner, or a geezer that smoked the crap back in the 70's....I've known a lot of people who smoked the stuff, but it was never for me...Some who smoked it showed the traits you described, but they showed those same traits when they were sober....They were lazy....i've also known some who functioned fully in their everyday life, and weren't lazy, got things accomplished, and had motivation high or sober

    Have you ever wondered if marijuana is a problem simply because it's taboo....In this crappy world we live in, some people do things just because they're illegal

    Again, I'm not saying I'm for legalizing the stuff, just think you're putting a serious stereotype where it doesn't belong....Not all people who drink are violent or go on major crime sprees...If you want my opinion, the biggest problem we're fighting now is COMPLETELY LEGAL prescription pain pills...

    And just for the record, if I'm going to be involved in a car accident with an impaired driver, I'd much rather get hit by a pothead going 35 than a drunk doing 70

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