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    Very good info!
    I've been using the Ahi Pro Series 200 line nets. I use a 10 ft in the slip and an eight foot to cast. The nets are very soft\smooth and the knots are almost non detectable. This is a key if you want to minimize damage to your bait. Those Bass Pro nets will catch bait in a slip just as good as any but they will really damage the bait. Run your hand across them and it's like sand paper and will scrap scales off your bait in a hurry.

    Another thing to consider is weight. I bought these nets because they had more weight (1.35 pounds per foot). More weight means faster fall and better for deeper gait, right? Maybe not.. At first I had a heck of a time getting deeper bait when everyone else was doing well. Lance and I talked about it and we decided the extra weight was causing the net to close on the fall faster making a smaller catch area when the net reached the bait. I ended up removing every four (or fifth?) weight. This isn't a net that's cast but set up in a slip so the loss of weight didn't really affect the "opening" of the net at cast since it isn't "cast" anyway. The net now falls in a wider pattern and is easier to pull up with the less weight. You want one that makes a pocket but not one that makes a narrow cone and I feel one pound per foot works the best. Now this is for a 3/8" mesh net. Going up to a 1/2 inch net may really do a great job with that 1.35 pounds per foot as there is less drag from the net on the fall. The down size there is more "usable sized" bait snagged in the larger mesh.

    As for my eight footer I'll leave the extra weight on. It's for shallow water gizzards and can move down on the sides to trap faster baits where a slower dropping net might not get down to trap them in time.

    So my net specs for alewives is:
    3\8" mesh
    soft quality netting
    Larger horn
    longest pull line I can get (Mine has 30 ft with another 30 ft added)
    Pie panels
    One pound per foot weights.

    Here is some information on a guy that is the absolute authority and designer of castnets. You tell him what you want to catch and the conditions and he builds the net for you...
    Tim Wade
    http://www.lagooner.com/photoPages/wadetim/

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    Thanks. Never thought about different nets knocking off more scales than others. I know I am always cleaning scales off everything including myself.

    What are you considering usable bait?
    3", 4" ?

    What is your opinion of 6' net, 1 lb per foot, 1/2' mesh?
    Will that gill a 4" alewife" ?
    If so I'll go with 3/8' mesh.
    If it nets 4" and 3" and smaller go through I think I will try 1/2"

    Seems like my 3/8" mesh nets 3" alewives and gills smaller.

    Thoughts appreciated.

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    I also just read that if you pull the net up slow fewer baits will get gilled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter View Post
    I also just read that if you pull the net up slow fewer baits will get gilled.
    Really? Never thought about that. Did they discuss the reasoning? I don't pull up fast anyway just because I worry about taking care of the bait from the start of the netting process right on through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duayne View Post

    Really? Never thought about that. Did they discuss the reasoning? I don't pull up fast anyway just because I worry about taking care of the bait from the start of the netting process right on through.
    Just more force on the bait to the net I guess. He didn't say. Net full of bait can get heavy on the bottom ones. Maybe they freak more and and swim till they get gilled.

    I haven't tried real slow yet. Usually in a hurry racing the sun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter View Post
    Just more force on the bait to the net I guess. He didn't say. Net full of bait can get heavy on the bottom ones. Maybe they freak more and and swim till they get gilled.

    I haven't tried real slow yet. Usually in a hurry racing the sun.
    Ha! I know about that race! I still go slow and steady when coming up and hope for no bass or crappie..

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    Better smoother knotting also helps with casting. The net isn't getting caught on it'self in the netting area nearly as much.

    My hand measures 4" across. I don't want to keep anything smaller than my hand and right now and would prefer 5"-6" baits (Only because they hit them better when I put out mixed baits). I will say my net doesn't gill much at all except a few at the top. Better knotting means less gilling. Historically, a 1\2" net can gill those 4" baits and smaller where a 3\8" the 4" baits mostly end up in the bow or barely stuck and easy to shake down and it's the 3" baits or smaller getting gilled. Now if it's summer and you can get a bunch of those larger baits then casting the 6' 1\2" is perfect and the 1.5 pound per foot wouldn't hurt at all. The three inch baits can be gold in the colder winter months. The fish like the smaller bait but they never stay alive long in the tank or on the hook. But when that's what you can get and what they will hit then use a smaller mesh and take care of them as best you can. Most other times I'd drop 10 times and cull the 3" baits.

    You go out and find schools of bait versus setting up lights at the dock so the 6' will work well for you. When we try to draw bait to us, when sometimes need all the coverage we can get if things are tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter View Post
    Thanks. Never thought about different nets knocking off more scales than others. I know I am always cleaning scales off everything including myself.

    What are you considering usable bait?
    3", 4" ?

    What is your opinion of 6' net, 1 lb per foot, 1/2' mesh?
    Will that gill a 4" alewife" ?
    If so I'll go with 3/8' mesh.
    If it nets 4" and 3" and smaller go through I think I will try 1/2"

    Seems like my 3/8" mesh nets 3" alewives and gills smaller.

    Thoughts appreciated.
    I've been using the 6' diameter 1/2 inch net for nine weekends now (eighteen times) 100% success. Never use the 3/8" mesh anymore. This will absolutely will gill some real nice 4" alewives, as some mentioned here, but it also does not gill a bunch of them. Pull the net up real slow and it gills less bait. When I get it to the point where it is all the way up I grab the ring on top of the net and pull it up almost as far as it will go while still holding the rope so the bottom of net net is closed. With the other hand I gently shake the top of the net which is loose and many of the baits that appeared to be gilled are not and fall to the bottom of the net and survive just as well as the others. Some are truly gilled and those that don't come out when shaking the net hard I deal with later when done fishing. There is no easy exit for those guys.

    The result is some very nice bait and "zero" culling of smaller baits and less toxins in your dump bucket (that may have a double meaning) Saves a bunch of time.

    If it is a year or time of the year when the bait is small then this will net no bait.

    Started out throwing both nets to get a handle on the differences. Probably a good idea to have both sizes ready to throw. Any net will gill bait of a given size so it's good to have options handy.

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    I personally see no use in buying a $100 net. I use a $30 4 foot radius net from Walmart and it does the trick. I just learned how to use one several weeks ago and I'm already catching tons of baitfish with it. Don't see the need in buying a net for that much. Thanks for the review though and I can see where you are coming from

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