Our IGNORANT Potus

[know1]

Well he layed the pavement yesterday in his speech for gun control. And yes he used his favorite word..''CHANGE''.
I hate that stupid ******* more everyday!!!!!

What are your suggestions to deal with these mass shootings?

I dislike and am against most everything Obama does, but what I heard him say is that we HAVE to do SOMETHING and that he is going to consult with various sources to figure out options.

I can't say I disagree with any of that...especially the part where we HAVE to do SOMETHING.

[mhall]

Heard a report this morning that he was referring to new gun legislation and did not want to ''Just say it'' as that would have been tacky even for him.

To ulitimately answer your question would be impossible as there is no way to stop senseless violence and Evil by human beings. It has been going on for centuries. However I do feel getting help for those that are mentally disturbed and dealing with it better is a start. Also the Mother of this young man made a grave error in allowing her weapons to be so readily available to an OBVIOUSLY warped individual. She should have had them under serious lock and key or even off site if necessary. The boys brother was qouted at saying his brother was very disturbed and everyone knew it.

I will also take a moment to get on my personal soap box. Morality in this country is at an all time low. God and family Fathers were taken from the household and schools. There are no consequeces for people's actions anymore. Everything is justified by some lame excuse with a slap on the wrist. There are trophies for everyone and God forbid we hurt anyone's little feelings. It's time to get back to basic moral, God fearing values in this country, the ones our Fathers fought and died for.
Obama is a tool, he is classless and has no clue how to run a county. He is part of the problem in my view, thus my original post of this thread.

This is how I feel, sorry..

[know1]

Maybe we should start handing out jail time to the family and close friends of these individuals who do these things.

I know it won't matter to the shooters as they are too messed up to care, but I'll bet people closest to these nuts might try to stop or deter them sooner if they're facing jail time.

[mhall]

Maybe we should start handing out jail time to the family and close friends of these individuals who do these things.

I know it won't matter to the shooters as they are too messed up to care, but I'll bet people closest to these nuts might try to stop or deter them sooner if they're facing jail time.

Could be a slippery slope, however I can't say that idea doesn't have some merit....

[DJD]

My personal opinion is why do we have to do something new? Isn't their laws already in place on gun purchases, registration and punishments for breaking those laws? We can't fix every problem by creating a law when we don't enforce the ones we have (in general terms and I'm referring to Fast and Furious by this admin). This was tragic and it breaks my heart but I say as a leader how about we think and not react with our heart? How many deaths a year are by guns? By drinking and driving? By gang fights? Knives? Drugs? Domestic violence? Why are we so fixated on guns? IMO it's because folks want to limit our rights because they feel the need to control others and nothing is sacred anymore. This murderer could have used a knife, crossbow, pipe bomb, fire or whatever to kill kids and adults and I seriously doubt if ole dufus and his cronies would have jumped in as much as they have. Why would they? They have nothing to gain but this is different because it was a gun and in their eyes guns kill people and it helps their agenda.

I changed the channel as soon as I saw the potus on tv. He had nothing to say that I wanted to hear. I'm with Mark on my feelings about this tool plus I cannot say what I want to say since it would violate the rules of this board. I will say that he and his rich supporters and appointed nutjobs are for gun control and they will use every opportunity to push their agenda.


BTW...doesnt he get an opportunity to appoint a few Supreme Court Judges??

[bassin_bug]

My personal opinion is why do we have to do something new? Isn't their laws already in place on gun purchases, registration and punishments for breaking those laws? We can't fix every problem by creating a law when we don't enforce the ones we have (in general terms and I'm referring to Fast and Furious by this admin). This was tragic and it breaks my heart but I say as a leader how about we think and not react with our heart? How many deaths a year are by guns? By drinking and driving? By gang fights? Knives? Drugs? Domestic violence? Why are we so fixated on guns? IMO it's because folks want to limit our rights because they feel the need to control others and nothing is sacred anymore. This murderer could have used a knife, crossbow, pipe bomb, fire or whatever to kill kids and adults and I seriously doubt if ole dufus and his cronies would have jumped in as much as they have. Why would they? They have nothing to gain but this is different because it was a gun and in their eyes guns kill people and it helps their agenda.

I changed the channel as soon as I saw the potus on tv. He had nothing to say that I wanted to hear. I'm with Mark on my feelings about this tool plus I cannot say what I want to say since it would violate the rules of this board. I will say that he and his rich supporters and appointed nutjobs are for gun control and they will use every opportunity to push their agenda.


BTW...doesnt he get an opportunity to appoint a few Supreme Court Judges??

If all the adults at that school had been armed, there would have been a different outcome. The guy didn't have to have a gun to kill those children; he could have used a knife, a machete, a hammer, crowbar, and the list goes on. I don't think the idiots who want to take away our guns even get "it." I'm so sorry about all those children and adults being killed but taking away our guns won't stop the deaths of children. Sat. night a 16 year-old got killed in a knife fight, and the boy he was fighting with is in the hospital with stab wounds. At a high school 9 miles from my house, a 17 year-old boy was killed in a shooting as he turned his car around in a parking lot; last week a 17 year-old, same class, was killed when her boyfriend made a sudden turn in front of a loaded log truck; a little 9 year-old boy who is my cousin's step-grandson was killed when he rolled his dad's new 4-wheeler as he rode it ALONE two weeks ago. Obama doesn't have the answer and neither does anyone else.

[know1]

I think people need to stop lumping accidental deaths and deaths from cigarettes, etc. in with murders. It's really a poor argument. I've seen others arguing that there are so many more prevalent causes of death than being shot, but most of them are not intentional murders. Plus, everyone dies of something. It's the one certainty in life.

[zx150]

My personal opinion is why do we have to do something new? Isn't their laws already in place on gun purchases, registration and punishments for breaking those laws? We can't fix every problem by creating a law when we don't enforce the ones we have (in general terms and I'm referring to Fast and Furious by this admin). This was tragic and it breaks my heart but I say as a leader how about we think and not react with our heart? How many deaths a year are by guns? By drinking and driving? By gang fights? Knives? Drugs? Domestic violence? Why are we so fixated on guns? IMO it's because folks want to limit our rights because they feel the need to control others and nothing is sacred anymore. This murderer could have used a knife, crossbow, pipe bomb, fire or whatever to kill kids and adults and I seriously doubt if ole dufus and his cronies would have jumped in as much as they have. Why would they? They have nothing to gain but this is different because it was a gun and in their eyes guns kill people and it helps their agenda.

I changed the channel as soon as I saw the potus on tv. He had nothing to say that I wanted to hear. I'm with Mark on my feelings about this tool plus I cannot say what I want to say since it would violate the rules of this board. I will say that he and his rich supporters and appointed nutjobs are for gun control and they will use every opportunity to push their agenda.


BTW...doesnt he get an opportunity to appoint a few Supreme Court Judges??

Yep. Cocaine is illegal but you can find it on every street corner in America. We need to punish the ones doing the crime. Kinda like Sheriff Joe in AZ. He has the lowest recidivism rate in the country. Please tell me why?

If guns are outlawed than only outlaws will have them. Handguns are band in Chicago. Thank goodness no one is ever shot with one there.