Here's a little taste of the NEW taxes we will be seeing this coming year......

[parker]

Ole Mitch and John are going to lead the repubs right out of the house for 2014! Then big O gets to do what he wants. You guys had better register independent if you ever hope to elect another consertative. BAHAWAA

[GeoFisher]

The way I understand it is that the "fiscal cliff' is describing the tax rate for the upcoming year (2013). This is the end of 2012, and the tax rates are already set for this year.

there are two parts........the tax holiday passed by obama expires 12/12, so if that is not renewed, and so far it has not been, then 2.4% in additional income taxes.......PAID by the employee will start coming due your first paycheck in january.

The second part deals with the bush tax cuts. personally, roll those completely back to clinton era rates...for EVERYONE.....

Later,

Geo

[stratosjoe]

Yea, I'm on a roll........I'm TIRED of paying for everyone else, and quite frankly, I'm DONE doing it.

Later,

Geo


Hey George how you gonna be "done doing it" ...move to, well I can't think of anyplace that dosen't have taxes of at least what we pay cept maybe china. just keep paying those ss taxes George cause on the 3 week of each month my lazy no good retired union azz loves those checks....

[GeoFisher]

Yea, I'm on a roll........I'm TIRED of paying for everyone else, and quite frankly, I'm DONE doing it.

Later,

Geo


Hey George how you gonna be "done doing it" ...move to, well I can't think of anyplace that dosen't have taxes of at least what we pay cept maybe china. just keep paying those ss taxes George cause on the 3 week of each month my lazy no good retired union azz loves those checks....

Lower my income........INVEST more...show less net income, drop myself into a lower bracket.

And let me be CLEAR........the things promised you while YOU were working were promised and should be met. Those things promised today should NOT be promised, since they cannot be met.

I have many family members who are retired UAW, and are drawing SSI. Promises made, should be promises kept....but stop making those promises, because they can no longer be kept.

Have a good day.

Later,

Geo

[Hlleonard]

Lower my income........INVEST more...show less net income, drop myself into a lower bracket.

And let me be CLEAR........the things promised you while YOU were working were promised and should be met. Those things promised today should NOT be promised, since they cannot be met.

I have many family members who are retired UAW, and are drawing SSI. Promises made, should be promises kept....but stop making those promises, because they can no longer be kept.

Have a good day.

Later,

Geo

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Good afternoon Mr. Fisher, hope you and yours had a good holiday... Was just wondering if you were advocating doing away with social security and if so, what do you envision our country might look like if folks who have health problems or because of accidents can't continue to earn their livelihood?... It seems to me one of the reasons we have a great country is because we have compassion for the less fortunate.

[kygorski]

Maybe its because a party insists on running tards. Geo, with all your political acumen, using simple terms,explain to us tards where did we go wrong?

[Devils Horse]

I'm wondering why nobody is arguing about federal government spending.

Idiots? I'll tell you what is idiotic. Raising taxes on ANYONE before the government gets spending under control.

The Democrats have not passed a budget in 3 years, can any of you geniuses explain that one for me?

Yes, the Dems won the presidential election. You can stop pounding your chests now, most of us have heard about it already.

Since Obama won the presidential election are we supposed to just blindly follow the left wing press and ignore his trillions of dollars in budget deficits? How high should our national debt go before we're allowed to say anything? 20 trillion? 30? How high before his supporters get their heads out of their asses and say something? 50 trillion? 60?

[Hlleonard]

I'm wondering why nobody is arguing about federal government spending.

Idiots? I'll tell you what is idiotic. Raising taxes on ANYONE before the government gets spending under control.

The Democrats have not passed a budget in 3 years, can any of you geniuses explain that one for me?

Yes, the Dems won the presidential election. You can stop pounding your chests now, most of us have heard about it already.

Since Obama won the presidential election are we supposed to just blindly follow the left wing press and ignore his trillions of dollars in budget deficits? How high should our national debt go before we're allowed to say anything? 20 trillion? 30? How high before his supporters get their heads out of their asses and say something? 50 trillion? 60?

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Good afternoon Mr. Horse... We are always hearing "get spending under control", I suspect that would be a good idea but tell us where you would make the cuts to "get the spending under control".

[Devils Horse]

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Good afternoon Mr. Horse... We are always hearing "get spending under control", I suspect that would be a good idea but tell us where you would make the cuts to "get the spending under control".

A good start would be a budget of some kind...any kind that is not a trillion dollars underwater. Just the interest on our national debt is probably a few million a minute right now, we can't afford to borrow more money.

Okay, here's where I'd start. Eliminate the Dept of Homeland Security, the Dept of Education, HUD, several other government alphabets, 20% cut for every civil servant making over $100,000 a year, put government sponsored unemployment back to 6 months or so instead of the 2 or 3 years it is now. I could go on for a long time here, but I'm too lazy.

If the Democrats were serious about everyone paying their fair share they'd be trying to implement a flat tax rate across the board. Eliminate the IRS (another gigantic bureaucracy) and all of us pay the same percentage.

That will NEVER fly, the Dems need government dependents' votes to stay in power. Obama phones, free money, etc. buys plenty of votes...maybe even that magical 2% Obama won by. You think?

[Hlleonard]

A good start would be a budget of some kind...any kind that is not a trillion dollars underwater. Just the interest on our national debt is probably a few million a minute right now, we can't afford to borrow more money.

Okay, here's where I'd start. Eliminate the Dept of Homeland Security, the Dept of Education, HUD, several other government alphabets, 20% cut for every civil servant making over $100,000 a year, put government sponsored unemployment back to 6 months or so instead of the 2 or 3 years it is now. I could go on for a long time here, but I'm too lazy.

If the Democrats were serious about everyone paying their fair share they'd be trying to implement a flat tax rate across the board. Eliminate the IRS (another gigantic bureaucracy) and all of us pay the same percentage.

That will NEVER fly, the Dems need government dependents' votes to stay in power. Obama phones, free money, etc. buys plenty of votes...maybe even that magical 2% Obama won by. You think?

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Oddly I agree with you mostly with the exception of the flat tax, nobody will ever convince me that moving the tax burden from the folks who can most afford it to the folks who can least afford it is the right thing to do.... How does it help to take taxes out of one hand of somebody and put food stamps or some other government assistance in the other... It does seem there are way too many folks drawing their paychecks from tax dollars though... I would add legalizing drugs and putting a stop to the so called 'war on drugs', I personally believe the war on drugs is doing us more damage than the drugs themselves... Even the southern border might be a little cheaper to police if the drug smugglers were taken out of the picture and we allowed our farmers to cultivate it as a cash crop.

[GeoFisher]

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Oddly I agree with you mostly with the exception of the flat tax, nobody will ever convince me that moving the tax burden from the folks who can most afford it to the folks who can least afford it is the right thing to do.... How does it help to take taxes out of one hand of somebody and put food stamps or some other government assistance in the other... It does seem there are way too many folks drawing their paychecks from tax dollars though... I would add legalizing drugs and putting a stop to the so called 'war on drugs', I personally believe the war on drugs is doing us more damage than the drugs themselves... Even the southern border might be a little cheaper to police if the drug smugglers were taken out of the picture and we allowed our farmers to cultivate it as a cash crop.

You know.........you can take every single penny of INCOME from the top 2 percent and it doesn't even budge our deficits........

Libs really don't want tax equality....they want WEALTH equality...meaning they want to distribute wealth from rich to poor. That is the ONLY reason inheritance taxes even exist. I mean really...If my family had a 500 or 1000 acre farm and wanted to pass that down to me or my kids, I'd probably have to sell it to pay for the TAXES for the opportunity to own it. Talk about ****.

With regards to tax equality. 47 million heads of households don't pay FEDERAL Income or FICA taxes today, yet they get all kinds of tax breaks and subsidies......and in some cases they get a nice juicy earned income check. Until everyone pays into our tax coffers......don't come to me for MORE.

Later,

Geo

[Hlleonard]

You know.........you can take every single penny of INCOME from the top 2 percent and it doesn't even budge our deficits........

Libs really don't want tax equality....they want WEALTH equality...meaning they want to distribute wealth from rich to poor. That is the ONLY reason inheritance taxes even exist. I mean really...If my family had a 500 or 1000 acre farm and wanted to pass that down to me or my kids, I'd probably have to sell it to pay for the TAXES for the opportunity to own it. Talk about ****.

With regards to tax equality. 47 million heads of households don't pay FEDERAL Income or FICA taxes today, yet they get all kinds of tax breaks and subsidies......and in some cases they get a nice juicy earned income check. Until everyone pays into our tax coffers......don't come to me for MORE.

Later,

Geo

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Mr. Fisher, do you really want to live in a third world country, even if you had a tax rate that you advocate I doubt you would like that.