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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlleonard View Post
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    How would you suggest we fix the problems you pointed out?... I agree we have not solved all out social ills, we have a homeless population which include veterans and others.... We do have moochers, how do we determine who are moochers and who are truly needy, I agree we need to but causing more hunger just don't seem the answer to me.... Kids from 5 different fathers, yes, you have any answers? Starving the kids doesn't look like it would fix that problem.
    * Homeless - If homeless and crazy, institutionalize them. We used to do JUST that. Most homeless are crazy.

    * Veterans - If homeless and suffering ANY of the various war related ailments, GET THEM HELP. It is unreal that we'd give an able bodied baby momma with 15 kids from 10 different fathers THOUSANDS of dollars/month, but cannot take care of our veterans.

    * Moochers - Identify them, and KICK them off the roles. When they commit a crime, put them away for a long time. If they are Illegal, which a crap ton are..........SEND THEM HOME.

    * Kids from 5 different fathers - As above, that is tough. TAKE the kids, put them in a home (probably better off anyways), and KICK MOMMA on the streets. When she prostitutes herself or whatever else, lock her up.

    * 5 different deadbeat fathers.........WORK programs. Government work programs working on the worse jobs known to man. Don't TAKE jobs that folks will actually work.......rather use the jobs even a Mexican immigrant won't do.

    Oh, and change our prison system so that when you're in prison it FEELS like prison. Way too many criminals have no problem doing time. You know maybe our prisons need to get a serious UN rep for human rights violations. Maybe that would send a message that YOU REALLY don't want to be in prison in the United States.

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    Homeless - If homeless and crazy, institutionalize them. We used to do JUST that. Most homeless are crazy.

    Yes, we did do this in the past and I'm not sure why we got away from that...I agree

    Veterans - If homeless and suffering ANY of the various war related ailments, GET THEM HELP. It is unreal that we'd give an able bodied baby momma with 15 kids from 10 different fathers THOUSANDS of dollars/month, but cannot take care of our veterans.

    Again I agree, we do need to do a better job caring for our vets.

    Moochers - Identify them, and KICK them off the roles. When they commit a crime, put them away for a long time. If they are Illegal, which a crap ton are..........SEND THEM HOME.

    Again I agree... It seems I remember the powers that be whining about it costing more to police the welfare system than to just write them a check, I can't believe thats true, I think in the long run the system would work better.

    Kids from 5 different fathers - As above, that is tough. TAKE the kids, put them in a home (probably better off anyways), and KICK MOMMA on the streets. When she prostitutes herself or whatever else, lock her up.

    We tried orphanages in the past and I'm not sure they worked very well, don't have a problem with moving mama out in the street to fend for herself if she is able to do so as long as the kids she has are cared for, don't have a problem with locking her up if she is breaking our laws.

    5 different deadbeat fathers.........WORK programs. Government work programs working on the worse jobs known to man. Don't TAKE jobs that folks will actually work.......rather use the jobs even a Mexican immigrant won't do.

    Yes, we should do a better job of dealing with deadbeat fathers.

    Oh, and change our prison system so that when you're in prison it FEELS like prison. Way too many criminals have no problem doing time. You know maybe our prisons need to get a serious UN rep for human rights violations. Maybe that would send a message that YOU REALLY don't want to be in prison in the United States.

    Again I agree, I don't personally care if someone breaks our laws and as a result go to a prison where it is a bit uncomfortable.

    All these things would very likely cost more in tax dollars than we are spending now to deal with them so I'm not sure we would be helping ourselves as far as taxes are concerned but other than the cost these are good suggestions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoFisher View Post
    * Homeless - If homeless and crazy, institutionalize them. We used to do JUST that. Most homeless are crazy.

    * Veterans - If homeless and suffering ANY of the various war related ailments, GET THEM HELP. It is unreal that we'd give an able bodied baby momma with 15 kids from 10 different fathers THOUSANDS of dollars/month, but cannot take care of our veterans.

    * Moochers - Identify them, and KICK them off the roles. When they commit a crime, put them away for a long time. If they are Illegal, which a crap ton are..........SEND THEM HOME.

    * Kids from 5 different fathers - As above, that is tough. TAKE the kids, put them in a home (probably better off anyways), and KICK MOMMA on the streets. When she prostitutes herself or whatever else, lock her up.

    * 5 different deadbeat fathers.........WORK programs. Government work programs working on the worse jobs known to man. Don't TAKE jobs that folks will actually work.......rather use the jobs even a Mexican immigrant won't do.

    Oh, and change our prison system so that when you're in prison it FEELS like prison. Way too many criminals have no problem doing time. You know maybe our prisons need to get a serious UN rep for human rights violations. Maybe that would send a message that YOU REALLY don't want to be in prison in the United States.
    One I always thought would work. Charge the parents of illegitmate children with child abuse and or non-support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HURRICANEBOB View Post
    One I always thought would work. Charge the parents of illegitmate children with child abuse and or non-support.
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    Don't know about the illegitimate part as that might be getting into a moral issue but non-support does seem like it might be a form of child abuse.

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