Throw and Imaginary Grenade....get suspended

[fishraker]

I agree, this is ridiculous. However, this all started when the "three strikes and you're out" movement started. The conservatives started that. Don't go blaming the liberals for this. Almost all liberals and school teachers I know would not be in favor of this. They want what is best for the child.

[DJD]

I agree, this is ridiculous. However, this all started when the "three strikes and you're out" movement started. The conservatives started that. Don't go blaming the liberals for this. Almost all liberals and school teachers I know would not be in favor of this. They want what is best for the child.

What exactly are you saying? These "absolutes" started from the three strikes and your out idea? Regardless of your answer I disagree that almost all Liberals would not be in favor of this of course I'm not a Liberal so what do I know about the minds of Liberals.... but Conservatives want whats best for the child as well, we have kids too.

The common ground with most is this is dumb and to me its rules and regs gone over board with out of touch teachers or Administrators making decisions.

I'll tie the Liberal thing in with most BOE and teachers I know are Liberals including my sister and 2 cousins who teach (trust me we have heated discussions!). I would not be surprised that this decision came from an Obama sticker having, tree hugging, money grows on trees ideals, green movement.org, Hybrid driving, pro gun control Ellen watching Liberal....just saying!

[fishraker]

I have no idea what you are talking about. As a retired teacher, I remember when all this started. Teachers were not in favor of all this. This was before Obama was ever elected!

[DJD]

I have no idea what you are talking about. As a retired teacher, I remember when all this started. Teachers were not in favor of all this. This was before Obama was ever elected!

My understanding is that the "three strikes and your out" was a federal crime issue not some silly thing for a kid making noises and gestures in schools.
I was asking is that what you were saying has caused this school to enact "absolutes"? Not being associated with schools myself I was asking is that what is going on here? I read the "absolutes" and from your comment I understood that as a former teacher your saying that schools adopted that "three strikes and your out" idea and applied it to kids? Again I thought that was a federal issue. That's what I'm asking and I'm saying that if that's what happened then it's a waste of time and resources.

[fishraker]

My understanding is that the "three strikes and your out" was a federal crime issue not some silly thing for a kid making noises and gestures in schools.
I was asking is that what you were saying has caused this school to enact "absolutes"? Not being associated with schools myself I was asking is that what is going on here? I read the "absolutes" and from your comment I understood that as a former teacher your saying that schools adopted that "three strikes and your out" idea and applied it to kids? Again I thought that was a federal issue. That's what I'm asking and I'm saying that if that's what happened then it's a waste of time and resources.

It is a waste of time of time and resources. Each situation needs to be looked at what is happing at that place.

[GeoFisher]

My understanding is that the "three strikes and your out" was a federal crime issue not some silly thing for a kid making noises and gestures in schools.
I was asking is that what you were saying has caused this school to enact "absolutes"? Not being associated with schools myself I was asking is that what is going on here? I read the "absolutes" and from your comment I understood that as a former teacher your saying that schools adopted that "three strikes and your out" idea and applied it to kids? Again I thought that was a federal issue. That's what I'm asking and I'm saying that if that's what happened then it's a waste of time and resources.

Changed response......

[GeoFisher]

3 Strikes is about CRIME....already committed.

Zero Tolerance is about Control.....

How do you NOT see this...........wow.

Later,

Geo

[GeoFisher]

I agree, this is ridiculous. However, this all started when the "three strikes and you're out" movement started. The conservatives started that. Don't go blaming the liberals for this. Almost all liberals and school teachers I know would not be in favor of this. They want what is best for the child.

Lets see..........commit 3 FELONY offenses in your life, and go to jail for LIFE.

point a paper gun, or throw an imaginary grenade, and be suspended from school.

Yea, I REALLY see the similarities.........

Just how are the two even partially related.

Actually the Zero tolerance garbage has nothing to do with 3 strikes, but maybe you can tell me how.

Reminds me of Minority Report and the Bureau of Pre - Crime. By suspending the student who is playing, they are preventing a FUTURE crime.

If that is the case, lock everyone up in the west end, and you will eliminate 90% of all future LOUISVILLE crime.

Do you see how totally asinine my example is?? I'm wondering.

Later,

Geo