WOW......Obama and Bengazi....

[GeoFisher]

Why would, what most seem to believe, a socialist president, read a book that condemns socialism? I don't understand that part.

Socialism, Fascism, Communism.....Obamunism.......they are all BAD.......

AND they all can be summed up by one commonality......COLLECTIVISM.....

Later,

Geo

[SteveM4A1]

Socialism, Fascism, Communism.....Obamunism.......they are all BAD.......

AND they all can be summed up by one commonality......COLLECTIVISM.....

Later,

Geo

you do realize fascism is a right-wing ideology right? and it celebrated individualism, not collectivism. go do some research bud.

[greenriverman1]

A Right winger freed the slaves!

[GeoFisher]

you do realize fascism is a right-wing ideology right? and it celebrated individualism, not collectivism. go do some research bud.

"
Fascism recognizes the occurrence of class conflict, and advocates a resolution to end the division of classes within a nation and secure national solidarity.[8] However fascism publicly favours proletarian culture due to its association of proletarian culture with economic production and claims that the proletariat as producers must have a dominant role in the nation.[9] It rejects standard bourgeois culture that it associates with unfit sedentary lifestyle, individualism, plutocracy, and the bourgeoisie's economic exploitation of the nation's proletariat, that fascism views as inconsistent with virile nationhood.[10][11][12] Fascism claims that cultural nationalization of society emancipates the nation's proletariat, and promotes the assimilation of all classes into a proletarian nation.[8]

"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

I don't believe that **** for one instant.........

Do you OWN research......class conflict, and advocates a resolution to end the division of classes within a nation and secure national solidarity.

A pretty way of saying collectivism.

AND don't kid yourself.......the "right" wing thoughts of associated with fascism have NOTHING to do with my right wing thoughts.

Nice try though.

[SteveM4A1]

I never said you had fascist right wing ideas.And lol to using wiki as a source. Find some scholarly works. Simplt put, you are wrong my friend. You constantly make fictitious statements on here regarding obama. Now I am not an obama fan, but at least I have the facts supporting my ideas. Nazis, or facism, have nothing to do with the current administration. But let me guess, you think that Hitler took away guns like Obama is going to do? I may be inferring quite a bit there, but oh well

[GeoFisher]

I never said you had fascist right wing ideas.And lol to using wiki as a source. Find some scholarly works. Simplt put, you are wrong my friend. You constantly make fictitious statements on here regarding obama. Now I am not an obama fan, but at least I have the facts supporting my ideas. Nazis, or facism, have nothing to do with the current administration. But let me guess, you think that Hitler took away guns like Obama is going to do? I may be inferring quite a bit there, but oh well

OK.....

How about this......From the Dictionary......Is that good enough.

Fascism:

a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition....

Collectivism:

: a political or economic theory advocating collective control especially over production and distribution; also : a system marked by such control
2
: emphasis on collective rather than individual action or identity


Hey, isn't that exactly opposite of what you said, about individualism. I guess the one who needs to be edjumacated is YOU.

And just in case you forgot what you wrote about fascism 20 minutes ago.

you do realize fascism is a right-wing ideology right? and it celebrated individualism, not collectivism. go do some research bud.

FIRST: I lumped fascism into collectivism because that is EXACTLY what it is.

Better you go educate yourself.......I took one side of fascism in my example, which is STILL CORRECT.

Second: Everyone knows I'm a conservative, right winger. By responding to MY POST with your ******** regarding fascism, you were directing the comments at me......like it or not.


Later,

Geo

[fishin-fool]

GeoFisher......you...crack me up......please never....quit posting

Later,

FnF

[GeoFisher]

GeoFisher......you...crack me up......please never....quit posting

Later,

FnF

Just keeping it real.

[SteveM4A1]

Just keeping it real.

I would hardly call what you state in regards to politics "keeping it real". You seem to read something on the internet or hear it on the news and think it's true. Now if you are meaning to disinform people, then you are winning my friend, and I will call you Charlie.

[SteveM4A1]

OK.....

How about this......From the Dictionary......Is that good enough.

Fascism:

a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition....

Collectivism:

: a political or economic theory advocating collective control especially over production and distribution; also : a system marked by such control
2
: emphasis on collective rather than individual action or identity


Hey, isn't that exactly opposite of what you said, about individualism. I guess the one who needs to be edjumacated is YOU.

And just in case you forgot what you wrote about fascism 20 minutes ago.



FIRST: I lumped fascism into collectivism because that is EXACTLY what it is.

Better you go educate yourself.......I took one side of fascism in my example, which is STILL CORRECT.

Second: Everyone knows I'm a conservative, right winger. By responding to MY POST with your ******** regarding fascism, you were directing the comments at me......like it or not.


Later,

Geo

Yes fascism used nationalism as a unifier. However, fascism actually operated upon the idea of social darwinism, in which the strongest survive, and promoted those individuals. In terms of economics, unions were BROKEN up, and then the strongest businessman excelled. Fascist governments wanted large businesses, and actually ENCOURAGED private profit. They simply required that those profits were from an activity that served the national interest. They also believed in class collaboration, in which unequal classes are seen as a POSITIVE thing. Now, I'm sure you are going to go find some more sources defending your point. I will agree with you that fascism is collectivism in some areas, I was wrong in stating that it absolutely wasn't. Truth is, a single, short definition of fascism like you provided from the dictionary is not accurate and is way too narrow. It is way more complicated than that. But lumping fascism with socialism and communism is not correct, and that was the poor-attempt at a point I was trying to make in the beginning. Don't let me ruffle your feathers too much!

[GeoFisher]

Yes fascism used nationalism as a unifier. However, fascism actually operated upon the idea of social darwinism, in which the strongest survive, and promoted those individuals. In terms of economics, unions were BROKEN up, and then the strongest businessman excelled. Fascist governments wanted large businesses, and actually ENCOURAGED private profit. They simply required that those profits were from an activity that served the national interest. They also believed in class collaboration, in which unequal classes are seen as a POSITIVE thing. Now, I'm sure you are going to go find some more sources defending your point. I will agree with you that fascism is collectivism in some areas, I was wrong in stating that it absolutely wasn't. Truth is, a single, short definition of fascism like you provided from the dictionary is not accurate and is way too narrow. It is way more complicated than that. But lumping fascism with socialism and communism is not correct, and that was the poor-attempt at a point I was trying to make in the beginning. Don't let me ruffle your feathers too much!

Look.......I was lumping communism, fascism, socialism, and OBAMUNISM all together, and BFS........BAD blankety blankety ****.

AND I stated they were all based in collectivism. WHICH THEY ARE.

I'm done with it.

[SteveM4A1]

Its ok that you are wrong. And you can be done with it. That is fine. Just keep spewing your political bs. You should be a poitician!